admission board and offers of appointment

<p>If a complete candidate packet was submitted at the end of August and one was going to receive an offer of appointment, would that occur sometime in early fall? Would a "rejection" letter be sent during this time frame as well? USNA does refer to "rolling admissions" which usually implies this type of system, however aside from the LOA's is anyone else notified of their status this early in the game? Obviously most of us are still involved in the nomination process so are all other offers of appointment contingent on the academy recieiving those noms? If anyone is able to clarify this it would be helpful.</p>

<p>a limited number of candidates will be offered a letter of assurance (LOA)- meaning, if the candidate meets all other requirements (DoDMERB, Nom, CFA) then they will be offered an appointment. The number of LOAs that go out each year are limited, and are usually offered only to the most competetive candidates.</p>

<p>The majority of remaining appointments will not be made until March. Some will trickle out here and there, but if you are not offered an LOA, most applicants will fall into the general application pool, which gets decided later on in the cycle. Those clearly not competetive enough will receive a thin letter around that time as well- some sooner, but if the applicant is weak in SATs it is not unusual to have the board wait until the last SAT date before sending out a rejection letter.</p>

<p>The majority of applicants will not hear until well after January when the noms are due. And yes, all offers of appointment are contingent on obtaining a nomination, even those sitting with LOAs. While not all candidates with a nom will gain an appointment, an appointment is contingent on getting that nomination.</p>

<p>Hang in- it can be a long wait.</p>

<p>Strong ACT's (34 in math, 30 in Eng, comp 32) ACT 3.5 unweighted, 3.9 weighted, DOMERB, CFA, BGO interview--done and all okay. Athletics, everything else pretty strong as well. Have a CWV invite as well--just noted that many people received LOA's last week--I assume if I don't hear soon I am considered part of the "pool". Thanks for the response!!!!</p>

<p>^^^ not necessarily. LOAs will trickle out throughout the process- and while most are given out by mid-December, there have been some posters on here claiming that they received a LOA as late as January. </p>

<p>My advice is not to assume anything.
No news is good news, and you are still in the running until that thin letter arrives. In the meantime, hang tight and get on with your last year of high school. Have a back up plan in place- even a third. Don't put all your eggs in this basket, no matter how strong a candidate you are- lots of things can happen to derail this process, most of which is out of your control. </p>

<p>What is in your control is maintaining good grades, staying physically fit and healthy, and keeping to the straight and narrow path (meaning, don't do anything stupid). This can be a long wait, but the bottom line is that all the worry and fretting will do nothing to speed up the process, or change the end result!</p>

<p>Best of luck!</p>

<p>Rancher, where did you hear of a number of LOA's being received last week? I saw some posts of folks receiving LOA's in August, well before the first Admissions Board met. I posed the question as to how that could have happened without Admissions Board meeting first and did not get an answer.</p>

<p>Folks, please do not get wrapped up in LOAs. Less than 10% of the class will get them and many of those will be athletes or minority candidates. These last two categories make up most of the offers prior to the board's first meeting in September.</p>

<p>A part of the process is the patience endured and character developed during the long arduous wait between September submittals and April appointments.</p>

<p>If one demands instant gratification, might I suggest WP.</p>

<p>Is there anything extra needed to "send" your application? On the USNA Admissions page, I have everything completed except my CFA, does the academy automatically get everything or is there like a send option once everything is completed?</p>

<p>When you access and enter CIS, at the top of the second page, is a box listing the status of all the required items for the application. It will tell you what they have received. Always keep a hard copy of everything you send.</p>

<p>Besides the LOAs, the only other real assurance before you receive an actual appointment is a Vice Presidential nomination. Only 10 are nominated for each appointment--usually only one appointment a year but every few years there are two and then 20 are nominated. Normally all the nominees for this appointment are appointed as "qualified alternates" because they are the top ten candidates for admission who did not receive any other nominations. They then form the top of the pool for all appointments as "qualified alternates".</p>

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<p>Totally wrong. Only the congressional nominations allow 10 nominations for each opening. For the VP, it is a single nomination, direct, with no qualified alternates. The VP nomination normally goes to a candidate who, through no fault of his own, did not receive a MOC nomination. Therefore, usually it is not announced until the very end.</p>

<p>One other key point - The office of the Vice President does not actually choose who receives a VP nomination. Candidates are chosen by the admissions office at each academy.</p>

<p>Thank you USNA69! I stand corrected. This was explained quite differently to me as I received a Vice-Presidential nomination very early in the cycle (October) which was revoked later--and quite understandably--when I received a Presidential nomination. I was told that the Vice President nominated competitively, but since your post I have gone back and reviewed the law-- US</a> CODE: Title 10,6954. Midshipmen: number --and it is clear that this is, in fact, not the case.</p>

<p>not wrapped up in, or focused on the possibility of an LOA as alluded to earlier. Just trying to get a sense of the time table. From what I have been told by my regional officer, the admissions board did meet in September-- I was was attempting to figure out whether, in the spirit of "rolling admissions" those candidates that who were reviewed would get an indication of their status early in the academic year.
Thanks for all of your responses!!!</p>

<p>Rolling admissions is a misnomer. MOC nominations are not due to the CGO until the end of January so they can't even commence matching qualified candidates with nominations until February. Records will go before the board which, commencing in the beginning of Sept, meets every Thursday. The definitely qualified will be done so, the others will more than likely be deferred until after the last SAT cycle and after mid-term grades. Additionally, very few rejections will happen until early next year. Be prepared, and not alarmed, not to hear anything at all until February for qualification and April for appointment.</p>

<p>Then why does the Academy Admissions Officers refer to it as Rolling Admissions at their Briefs to students in our Area?</p>

<p>Our MOC do their interviewing in November and submit soon there after. It is normal in our area for Appointments to start rolling appearing in our area in December and January, in some years we have had appointments received in November soon after the MOC submitted - those have been for LOA's who have met all requirements.</p>

<p>By definition that appointments come out at different times during the year rather than just on the 15th of December or April 1st makes it a "rolling" admission - at least in Academic admissions officers terms. When they have used up all of the spots - no more appointments - up until that occurs they keep rolling out Appointments.</p>

<p>As posted above, many MOC's do not send their nom's in until the last moment which is 1/31/09 this year. In our case our Nom's showed up on the CIS on 1/31/08, our Congressman called us about 2 weeks later advising of the appointment and it was received in the mail on 2/21/08. After reading here a while I do know that some MOC's tend to get their nom's in a bit earlier since clearly some were appointed last year before the MOC nom deadline.</p>

<p>Okay, if one can grasp the concept that rolling admissions may have very little to do with the completion date of ones package, you are correct. Many cannot. Hence my statement that it is a misnomer.</p>

<p>Also, the national pool, which accounts for a substantial part of the class, cannot even commence until ALL the MOCs primary nominations have been ascertained, which is well into February.</p>

<p>This has been discussed many times, but indeed, as USNA indicates, it is a rolling admissions program. The misnomer is assuming that by rolling, apps are processed as they are completed. At USNA they MAY be processed as such, but due to the nomination process muddying the deal AND that applicants are at many levels compared to others in the pool (at the MOC, state, national levels for examples and there are others)</p>

<p>3 of the past 4 appointees from our immediate area received offers between Dec 8 and Dec 24 as our senators and MOCs get their nominees to USNA in November. The 4 th, the only one of the 4 to get an LOA, did not hear until mid-March.</p>

<p>I have had everything in for some time now. Is there anyplace online that my application should say "complete?" My AF app. is not complete yet, and it says at the top of the page "incomplete." Does Navy do something like that?</p>

<p>Have you not accessed the USNA CIS system. All the information you need is on that site with the exception of the DODMERB results which are on the DODMERB website. The CIS lists each required process and when it was received by the Academy. It also lists whether or not you have been nominated and by who. It does not list whether or not you passed the CFA, only that it was received. If you get a letter deeming you academically qualified, you may be asked to supply some more information that is not tracked on the CIS. If you receive an appointment you will receive many documents and they too are not tracked on the CIS></p>