Admission Rates at different Cornell Colleges

Colleges and Universities A-Z Cornell University
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<p>Hey guys, </p>

<p>I'm a senior applying to Cornell Early Decision this fall. I've visited twice and loved it both times and its definitely my first choice. I am however, torn between two colleges, either Industrial and Labor Relations (ILR) and the Arts and Sciences (for Economics) at Cornell.
I've spoken with the Internal Transfer office there and she basically said that while transfer isn't guaranteed, 80% of kids who apply for transfer get it. So I'm not worried about getting "stuck" in the wrong college.</p>

<p>I have heard that ILR is an easier program to be admitted to, is that true? </p>

<p>According to the stats, I might be a match/reach to Cornell. </p>

<p>5.5 GPA on a 6.0 scale (average admitted GPA to Cornell from my high school is 5.55)
2300 Superscored on the SAT (average admitted SAT from my school is 2160)
740 Chem and 750 Math II subject test scores
And my EC's are good (multiple sports, captain of Mock Trial, clubs, job experience)</p>

<p>So since Im right on the line I'm really trying to maximize my chances at getting in. </p>

<p>Would it increase my chances to apply to the ILR school (and I really am 50/50 between the two programs)?</p>

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<p>Lol strong everything.</p>

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<p>ILR is absolutely the backdoor into Arts. Lots of crafty individuals apply to ILR and then internal transfer to Arts.</p>

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<p>ILR is a fantastic school- I have a lot close friends there who constantly amaze me with all the crazy things they do.</p>

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<p>The admission difficulty is the same across the board: Cornell admits kids to one school that are good enough to be admitted to any of the schools. They know that some kids try to switch into the “harder” schools by applying to the “easier” schools so they make sure that the kids that try to do this are smart enough to succeed in any school.</p>

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<p>This is absolutely not true. Like it or not, the official numbers are out there that shows that some schools are more selective than others. </p>

<p>To the OP: yes, applying ILR will definitely increase your chances.</p>

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<p>Yes. That is completely not true about admissions being the same across schools. If it were, the admission rates and requirements would be the same, but they are not. Internal transfers are not that uncommon.</p>

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<p>Here are the last stats I could find (fall of 2011):</p>

<p><a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000151.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000151.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000152.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000152.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000154.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000154.pdf&lt;/a&gt; </p>

<p>admission rates can be very deceiving. CALS has a lower admit rate than Engineering (19% to 20%) but the engineering average stats are significantly higher.</p>

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<p>SUNY now publishes admitted class stats for the contract colleges at Cornell. Not sure how long they’ve been doing this but this data was not readily available when my daughters were looking at colleges a few years ago.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.suny.edu/Student/downloads/Pdf/Admissions_qf_stateop.pdf[/url]”>http://www.suny.edu/Student/downloads/Pdf/Admissions_qf_stateop.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Actually… it is true. I have spoken with students who work in the admissions office and that is what they say. Choose to believe it or not-your choice. But don’t bank on the fact that applying to a school with the higher admission will guarantee acceptance.</p>

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<p>All you have to do is look at the admissions data posted above to see that some of the schools have a much lower rate of acceptance and have much different requirements to get in. Admissions is obviously looking for very qualified applicants for all of the schools at Cornell, and of course any person working in admissions is going to tell you that. With that being said, not everyone at Cornell would be cut out to be an engineer (for example) or pre-med or an English major. It is not a one size fits all university. That is why they do have separate admissions requirements and essays for each school. If all are created equally in terms of admissions, why not just have one central application procedure? Same with graduation requirements.</p>

<p>The point is that the OP will need to demonstrate that he is a good fit for ILR vs. Arts and Sciences in his essay, so he will need to think about which school he believes he is a better match for and why. If he is torn between the schools, he should look at the required classes, the course offerings, etc. to make a determination that way. </p>

<p>As far as internal transfers - they do happen a lot. It’s just a fact.</p>