<p>CIF = California Interscholastic Federation, the governing body for high school sports in CA.</p>
<p>CA is a big state, so holding a CIF record is a big deal. The girl I mentioned didn’t make the 2012 Olympic team, but is a contender for 2016.</p>
<p>It’s interesting how much better this Irvine group did with Cornell, Duke, Emory, WashU and Northwester than PV group with similar class sizes.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting. Although my school is not like this at all, it is interesting to see these results. My school doesn’t even use Naviance so I have nothing to compare my chances with.</p>
<p>Just for kicks I checked a few acceptances for my most recent alma mater (Purdue)… </p>
<p>How does one get 800/800 on SAT and a 3.3 GPA? (accepted engineering)
3.7 GPA and 570 in Math? Bha. Humanities major 
790 Verbal, 480 CR?
800/800/800 and 4.5 and APPLYING to Purdue?
3.19 and high 600’s and declined?
2.7 and 400’s and accepted (ok, athletic let’s hope we get our money’s worth)</p>
<p>Interesting data, by the way.</p>
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<p>Why not? Purdue is a fine school for many subjects, and such a student may well be happy to go there.</p>
<p>Even if s/he does apply to super-selective schools, those are typically “reach for everyone”, so having the state flagship as good as Purdue as a safety is a good place to be.</p>
<p>Note that the Irvine figures are acceptances only, and so one student can account for multiple acceptances.</p>
<p>Perhaps more Ivy legacies among the Irvine kids who parents may be faculty at UCI.</p>
<p>I find it surprising that the University School in Irvine seems to be a lot more successful academically than my school, yet so many more people go on to community college. At my school, not as many people go on to top colleges, yet everyone seems to go to a four-year university also. Maybe tuition has something to do with it, although for people from such an affluent area, it wouldn’t seem like such a big deal. But there’s also the chance of UC transfers too. Who knows?</p>
<p>Purdue is generally stingy with financial aid, and OOS tuition is quite steep compared to IS. But it’s a huge school, large does not just begin to describe it, super-demanding, etc. And it has a culture of its own, very unique (can you say geektown :-)) and great sports…</p>
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<p>Was the 800/800/800/4.5 student in-state or out-of-state for Purdue? If in-state, it seems like a very reasonable application. If out-of-state, probably less so compared to one’s own state flagship or a cheaper state flagship like Minnesota.</p>
<p>It’s interesting to see these spreadsheets from my school here. I’m just a student (senior from PVPHS) browsing about the parent’s forum and I happen to see our statistics. Happy to see that people are interested. There are so many intelligent students at Pen High; however, not everyone there is a superstar. Most of the people I know will have taken about 6-9 AP classes by the time they graduate; some will have taken at most 3. We do have a very very very large Asian population (as I am one of many). We students have been blessed with such an amazing school, teachers, and activities and really do work hard for our grades.</p>
<p>In case anyone is wondering, we do not have an IB system, only AP.</p>
<p>As for our weighting system, the formula is: Unweighted GPA + [(# of weighted courses times 0.2)/# of semesters completed]</p>
<p>And yes, only 5 classes per semester can be weighted.</p>
<p>If there are any questions that anyone wants answered from a current student, feel free to ask and I can try to answer as accurately as possible. :)</p>
<p>Given the large number of applications to UC, the chart may be even more useful (for future students at PVPHS) if it included a column for UC admissions GPA.</p>
<p>Could someone please explain to me why Pen would be considered to have high grade inflation? I don’t really understand why that would be.</p>
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<p>Not likely. Uni is (arguably) the top non-magnet public in LA/OC, and has been for many years. Many/most years, it does as well as/better than Harvard-Westlake, an expensive prep school. Uni’s admissions results are rather consistent from year to year – not that many faculty members can begat that many HS seniors. :)</p>
<p>Did anyone else notice the student who only applied to Brown? REALLY lucky he/she got accepted.</p>
<p>As with the Yale kid, the Brown kid might have applied ED.</p>
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<p>Because people are using a strange, expanded definition of grade inflation when they say that. </p>
<p>In normal usage, grade inflation would imply increasing GPA over time without increaed student performance, The way I have usually seen it measured is by looking at similar type GPA calcualtions at a school, and seeing how GPA rises or falls over time compared to a standard benchmark. For example, if the GPA at a school rises significantly over 10 years, using the same method of calculation, but the ACT or SAT scores remain the same, people would say the gradfes are becoming inflated. Maybe people are using the three data sets here like that, but I doubt it. </p>
<p>I suppose you could also compare school to school using a benchmark common to both schools, but I haven’t seen such an analysis, and am sure the benchmark chosen would draw endless debate.</p>
<p>More likely, people are looking at a single set of numbers, without any time element, and claiming to find “grade inflation” because the method of calculation yields higher GPA than the method at their school. If two students take exactly the same courses at two differnt schools, but one school weights differently than another school, thereby giving one student a higher GPA that isn’t what is historically referred to as “grade inflation.” Everyone knows you can’t just take the GPA at school X and compare it to the GPA at school Y without knowing the way they are calculated, and supposedly admissions people take that into account.</p>
<p>Don’t worry about it. Don’t worry too much about what anybody writes in here (or at least be very discerning about the opinions provided). Just continue to do good in school.</p>
<p>Blue, does Uni do better on a per capita basis than H-W? That would be stunning.</p>
<p>Thanks, Bovertine, for posting the data set again and thanks, mihcal, for the links to the excel spreadsheets. As I posted last year, a big time sink, so thank goodness for leftovers and hubby out of town on business.</p>
<p>^^^You’re welcome. Keep the analyses comments coming, everyone! They’re fascinating, because each person who looks at the data picks up on different aspects. </p>
<p>Chipoh – it’s awesome that we have someone from PVPHS reading the thread. Can you please tell us a bit about what it’s like to be a student there? Is the atmosphere more competitive or supportive? How’s the HW load? Do students mostly study on their own, or is there a lot of collaborative learning? Do the kids hang out in ethnic cliques, or mix socially? Are your friends mostly at the same academic level, or do you have friends across the spectrum? How much interaction have you had with guidance counselors, and have they been helpful to your college selection/application process? What do you particularly like about your school? What would you change?</p>