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I have no idea what you are making reference to with "generalizations and hearsay " or even "sides" but I will assume it has nothing to do with my posts. I trust that you'll tell me if I'm wrong. ;)</p>
<p>Nobody accepted vienna man's Top 12 or Top 20 and then fall off a cliff argument. That was a clear loser. </p>
<p>Nothing carolyn said or *kia said in any way supported that ridiculous argument. Nothing in either of their posts contradicted anything I said.</p>