Admissions Scandal at the Univ. of Illinois

<p>Having had intimate exposure to pretty corrupt national cultures in several countries through personal and business dealings, I am REALLY surprised to read “lenient” attitude about this scandal among some of the posters here. </p>

<p>What separates first rate nations from third rate nations on the “transaperancy scale” is not whether politicians and big businesses are corrupt or not, even though international agencies rate the countries along the line of official corruption in governments and businesses. They are all corrupt any way. However, that kind of “official corruption” is only a symptom. The cause, and the root of it all, is small everyday corruption that permeates the whole society and the general public’s acquiescence and condoning attitude toward it.</p>

<p>I grew up in a society where for almost everything, some kind of “greasing” was necessary. Like $10 contribution to the overworked county clerks to “process” your real estate paper work. $5 “donation” for the hard working traffic cop. $100 cash gift a couple of times a semester for your son’s teacher who work so tirelessly at a low salary to educate the future generation of the nation. Generous donation for your daughter’s class for a special luncheon treat, which, oh, so conveniently happened to take place during the week of an election of the class president of which your daughter is a candidate. Then, all these well meaning and considerate citizens get outraged when they discover, almost painfully too often, may I add, massive bribery scandal among their public officials from judges to elected officials. I tell them: they are the monsters of your own making. </p>

<p>These judges and elected officials are not aliens from Mars. They are the sons and daughters of the well meaning citizens who were elected school president with free lunches doled out to their classmates. They grow up, and they “buy” their elections on the national scale, just they way they bought school elections. The difference between the school teachers who count on $100 cash gifts from most of the parents a few times a year as part of their family finance for the year and the politicians who take $10M bribery is that the latter are more adept and capable of doing it “right” with vision and boldness!!!</p>

<p>I firmly believe that the public in general thoroughly deserve their government, and rarely there are such things as hapless and blameless general public who are victims of corrupt and brutal government. Show me a country where the masses are dying of hunger while their leaders live like a king, and I will show you every day inequities and injustices that are taking place on a small scale among the same people victimized by their ruthless leaders. The same attitude that condones violence toward women and downtrodden gave birth to the system of the society that begets monstrous dictators. Yes, there are some exceptions, like everything else: they may be some truly blameless masses, but they are rare. </p>

<p>When I first came to USA, what I found so amazingly refreshing was the absence of small everyday corruption: to me, that, more than anything else like wealth and advanced infrastructure, signaled to me that I came to a first rate country. </p>

<p>When we lose the ability to be outraged by seemingly victimless everyday small corruption, we start feeding the monster that will grow to devour us all in its insatiable hunger.</p>

<p>Hanna wrote:</p>

<p>**<strong><em>They were doing what they thought was in the best interests of the school…and it probably WAS in the best interests of the school. It really isn’t their job to think about the best interests of Illinois taxpayers as a whole </em></strong></p>

<p>No, “they” were not doing it to benefit the university. They were doing it to give special favors to those who are in a position to help them politically and business wise. “They” were doing it for themselves.</p>

<p>This is vastly different from private colleges getting a huge donation from an alum and admitting his/her daughter/son. I have no problem with that at all. Because it is indeed done more or less openly and done for the school: so who cares if an idiot son of Mr. Money goes to Harvard at a price tag of $100M donation: if 1000 deserving kids from inner city ghetto get a chance to receive the top rate education in exchange of having a bumbling village idiot as their class mate, that’s cosmic justice served.</p>

<p>I had a bit of a problem with the “legacy” practice. But it’s done in the open as part of their policy: I may not agree with it, but it’s not corruption, because it’s not done in the hushy hushy to benefit the “adcoms” and “school officials” for their avaricious pursuit of personal gain.</p>

<p>I don’t know how common this is in other States but it is very common for State legislators and/or their spouses in Florida to be employed and receiving 6 figure salaries from yes State colleges. Just coincidentally they are funneling millions of taxpayer dollars to the State college where they just happen to work. And they are outraged when you have the nerve to suggest that there might be a conflict of interest there.</p>

<p>hye - well written. I, too, am unhappy about it but not surprised. Chicago rules Illinois, mainly because it has more people than downstate. And the “one hand washes the other” philosophy permeates in everything, from city contracts to getting a job. And it really is about “who you know, not what you know” there. And the intimidation that precedes to make sure you grant the favor…and God forbid you not grant it.</p>

<p>This is wrong because we’re paying through our taxes? Check your math - most states pay a small fraction of the budget for major universities. We can argue over how the money pie comes in and goes out, but keep in mind that money is the ultimate fungible commodity. Keep in mind too that state legislatures jerk public universities around in many ways, most not too public, and most to keep you voters happy (try “economic development” for example), so I think you’re getting your money’s worth. </p>

<p>Hye, I guess you don’t count lobbying, as goes on in state legislatures all over the country, as well as here in DC, as “small everyday corruption”? It sure isn’t big time when you consider how little it takes to buy the vote of someone here in DC. </p>

<p>Truth is, in the US, our “small everyday corruption” is well hidden, but plainly there. You’re on the donor list of the party in power in your town? Guess what, getting that zoning variance just became easier. It is true that the ordinary wage earner is not too affected directly by this everyday culture of corruption aka political donations. Maybe that’s a difference. But in the biz world, it is all too often the power behind the scenes. </p>

<p>The curious thing is how much we take this for granted. Take the fundraisers for various police and firefighters “benevolent” groups. How many of us think, maybe just for a moment, that donating is one way to make sure we get good police or fire service? Or fear the consequences if we don’t?</p>

<p>I think it’s wrong to ask all the trustees to resign. The review board went overboard on that item. Yes it permeated the system but a university should be able to reform the admissions and have a microscopic oversite for the next few go rounds with out completely disrupting the university by having the entire board of trustees resign. This will reflect on the next few years of graduates. then it will be forgotten. I dont see any sense in the disruption of the education system. I am sure enough will leave ou of shame of association.</p>