<p>I want to find numbers on how many people in various undergraduate programs (at different universities) apply to medical school, how many are admitted, and the average gpa for the admitted students. Anyone know how I can obtain this information?</p>
<p>There's no site that contain info for all schools. Your best bet is to check the sites of individual schools. I know MIT, Cornell, Princeton, University of Michigan, Berkeley, UCLA, Swarthmore, Amherst, and Duke release such info. As always, be careful when looking at easily manipulatable statistics.</p>
<p>Off the top of my head, for U.S. MD programs, the averages are like 29 MCAT and 3.65 uGPA. Nationwide, about 45% of applicants will get an acceptance at least somewhere.</p>
<p>EDIT: If you're talking about individual schools, then yeah, that can be really hard to find. Also, remember that many of those schools try to keep students from applying if they don't have the stats in order to buff those acceptance numbers.</p>
<p>Average MCAT score for accepted students is more like 30-31, I think.</p>
<p>What is a competitive score on the MCAT? For example, in my opinion, 1400+/1600 is a fairly competitive score on the SAT, and 1500+ is super-competitive. Also, I'm starting to think that these types of numbers are something that you can only ask admissions or find on their websites.</p>
<p>Here is one that I found:</p>
<p>University of Southern California Statistics: USC</a> Pre-Health Advising - Facts & Figures</p>
<p>...but are there any lists or lists of links?</p>
<p>Define "competitive."</p>
<p>30-31 is a good MCAT score, but barring some other remarkable accomplishments, you won't be getting into Harvard's or JHU's med schools with those. For the most prestigious med schools (which are not necessarily the best medical schools), you'll need something more like 35-37.</p>
<p>Competitive: a score which will increase your chances of admittance to both super-super-selective and highly selective schools (since all medical schools are selective by definition).</p>
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<p>You're looking for a score which is actually a positive factor, not just a non-negative, at every single school in the country?</p>
<p>A balanced 38.</p>
<p>last time i checked 38 was not evenly divisible by 3 lol just kidding...what do you mean by "balanced"?</p>
<p>When a number is not divisible by three, "balanced" means "as close to balanced as possible" -- in this case, a 12-13-13.</p>
<p>Having subscores that are close to one another. 12, 13, 13 is better than 15, 8, 15 even though both are 38's. I personally think a balanced 35 will make you competitive for any top school. Obviously a 35 at Harvard or Penn is just a non-negative but it's a positive at most schools.</p>
<p>NCG: Yeah, but sari seemed to be asking for more than "competitive." She seemed to be asking for a score where the MCAT itself would be an **asset **to the application, not just a not negative.</p>
<p>I agree, no school in the country will consider a 36 to harm an application. But for every school to actually consider it an asset? I think 38.</p>
<p>bdm and norcalguy, how much weight do med schools place on the essay score?</p>
<p>None .</p>
<p>why do they care about the verbal score?</p>
<p>Because whether or not you're good at words matters. A lot.</p>
<p>The more appropriate question is why is the essay -- which, I'm told, has been statistically demonstrated to be the most important section -- is ignored. And I don't have a good answer for that. Maybe the standard deviation is too high to be useful?</p>
<p>Supposedly the correlation b/w the verbal score and the USMLE is highest among any of the subsections. Verbal is also the section that many people score terribly on. By that I mean it's not unusual to see 12, 12, 8 (with the 8 being the verbal section) while it's much more unusual to see the 8 be the one of the other two sections. Verbal is therefore a critical section to use for distinguishing between candidates.</p>
<p>ok. i sort of understand. thanks</p>
<p>Yes, I did mean a competitive score for selective medical schools like Harvard and the like, because like many undergrad applicants faced with options, I am weighing the merits of attending a less selective undergrad school but being able to attend a very good medical school, which is why I want to know what a competitive MCAT score is. On the other hand, I could attend a really selective undergrad school and end up at a "less-selective" med school.</p>
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<p>Why do you think that less selective undergrad is inevitable coupled with more selective medical school, and vice versa?</p>