<p>Want my advice? Probably not, but here goes anyways - post an article about Duke with a positive spin and people here might be more inclined to see you as something besides a Harvard troll with too much time on his hands (or for them, seeing as this could easily be classified as wank).</p>
<p>Harvard <em>and</em> Duke. Woo.</p>
<p>Off-hand, I've heard there was a big decrease in tours to every top school (like 10-15) due to a) gas prices and b) the rise of students using magazines and rankings more....I want some more facts about that though</p>
<p>Thanks, Byerly, for telling me what was on the cover page of my own school newspaper that I work for. I mean, you're the source that every Duke student looks for to find out this news... we read the articles in intrigue, not when some random Harvard troll shoves it in our faces. But thanks -- I mean, it's not like there's a Chronicle bin in every campus building.</p>
<p>Many people view these pages who do not regularly consult college newspapers.</p>
<p>IMHO, reading college papers is one of the best ways to find out what is going on, and to get a feel for the place. </p>
<p>I say this even though college papers are of uneven quality.</p>
<p>Eh, who wants to visit schools over the summer when nobody's there? The article said numbers fell over the summer and began to rise again in August. I might as well use this thread to advertise, since it's sorta related...</p>
<p>Open House for NC/SC HS Students
Saturday, September 16 8:30-4:00 pm
Go [url=<a href="http://www.admissions.duke.edu/jump/campus/pdf/NCSC_2006.pdf%5Dhere%5B/url">http://www.admissions.duke.edu/jump/campus/pdf/NCSC_2006.pdf]here[/url</a>] to see a list of events and go [url=<a href="http://www.admissions.duke.edu/%5Dhere%5B/url">http://www.admissions.duke.edu/]here[/url</a>] to register.</p>
<p>Shouldn't Byerly be focusing on more interesting stories?</p>
<p>I doubt this was posted either. Also from the Harvard newspaper. :) </p>
<p>"Princeton: No Longer A Safety School
Wednesday, August 30, 2006</p>
<p>A little-known New Jersey college topped U.S. News & World Report's annual ranking of America's best universities earlier this month."</p>
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<p>You mean Byerly <em>hasn't</em> posted that in the Harvard forum? I'm shocked. </p>
<p>Seems he is loathe to take Harvard to task. Well, unless they've offended his political beliefs. Liberal bias? RAGE. Domestic abuse? A-OK! Them womenfolk should know better than to step out of line anyways, right By?</p>
<p>Posts like Byerly's and attitudes from Harvard students I have been around continue to make me feel confident in my decision to turn down Harvard for Duke.</p>
<p>Did you get a merit-based scholarship? If so, that is perfectly understandable.</p>
<p>Actually, there is an observable yo-yo affect in college admissions; Duke took a hit this year in apps, yield rate, etc., but this means it is almost certain to rebound next year, as strategic applicants look to maximize their chances of admission to an elite.</p>
<p>This may shock you, but I have a high school friend who turned down Harvard and Yale for Duke with no financial incentive whatsoever. Doesn't regret it all.</p>
<p>Hey, 15% of students on average choose Duke over HYPSM, shouldn't be suprising to know someone who did</p>
<p>And Duke only has about 30 full merit scholarships so that wouldn't help its yield that much versus HYPSM</p>
<p>Not 15% vs H, however. And my guess is that those 30 are a fair fraction of the 15%.</p>
<p>About 30 percent of the students accepted to Duke are accepted to a HYPSM school, so 30 percent of 4000 is 1200 - 15 percent of that is about 180.</p>
<p>So of the roughly 200 studenst who come to Duke over HYPSM, only 30 chose it for a merit scholarship each year.</p>
<p>And also, thats assuming every merit scholarship is given to a cross-admit with HYPSM - some merit scholarships are given to ED students (atleast a handful) so they don't even count. So almost a 150 students chose Duke over HYPSM and didn't even care about it, in Duke's class of 1650.</p>
<p>Byerly,
Duke did not "take a hit" in applications this year at all. What is your source of information? (The yield was lower than last year, but still within the same statistical bounds that it has been for years.) </p>
<p>According to the admissioms office:
"Durham, N.C. -- Officials at Duke University expect 2006 to be the most selective year on record for undergraduate admissions despite the extensive recent media coverage involving the men’s lacrosse program. </p>
<p>With the admissions process nearing completion, Dean of Undergraduate Admissions Christoph Guttentag said Duke will end up admitting only 21 percent of applicants, the lowest percentage ever. The number of applications this year was almost 19,400, exceeding last year’s total -- itself a record -- by 1,300 applicants."</p>
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<p>I will admit that Duke has garnered much more media attention than some of the other elites. It was on the cover of many more magazines this year than any other school! Now, I will bet money on that.......</p>
<p>100% of the current students that I personally know very well at Duke had no interest in even applying to Harvard. As mentioned on a previous thread, the "selectivity" of an institution may occur at the point of application, not admission. There are many many well qualified students with no interest in Harvard. I know, hard to believe, but true......</p>
<p>Hardly the point, sokkermom.</p>
<p>And I don't think there is any doubt that Duke took a "hit" in relative terms, due to the unfortunate timing of the lax scandal. The outcome in September fell short of the expectations in March.</p>
<p>Still, as I have said, there is every reason to think that Duke will rebound smartly next year.</p>
<p>Byerly- how much time do you spend reading the chronicle? Get a life!</p>