<p>Refer to posts #136, #150, #155, and #158 please Mr. Adams12</p>
<p>It’s apples to oranges when using statistics above when compared to Princeton’s yield</p>
<p>Refer to posts #136, #150, #155, and #158 please Mr. Adams12</p>
<p>It’s apples to oranges when using statistics above when compared to Princeton’s yield</p>
<p>PABank, must I reiterate my original analysis?</p>
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<p>JohnAdams12 is completely accurate in saying Penn’s regular decision students had a 48% yield this year. He should not have to keep reiterating that his list title is accurate (given his assumptions about early yields).</p>
<p>You are perfectly in the right (and actually in agreement with me) in discussing compensations that should be made in order to create a more revealing list, but you keep assaulting a perfectly accurate list to do it.</p>
<p>xiggi, excellent find on the collgeboard stuff for EA yields for 2013, thanks</p>
<p>very simply: a non-early school will have a higher RD yield than an ED or EA school. Because many top application for whom Penn (for example) is a first choice reveal this preference and get in early. Without the EA/ED option they would still likely apply RD and get in and then exercise their penn preference.</p>
<p>Having an ED/EA system leaves you with a smaller % of applicants RD for whom Penn is a first choice. If penn got rid of their early decision, their yeild would be higher than 48% which is their current RD yeild. So apples and oranges, princeton must have enabled you to understand this JohnAdams12.</p>
<p>here’s data for an apples to apples comparison:</p>
<p>Princeton had a 54-55% RD yield in 2007:</p>
<p>[2011</a> Ivy League Admissions Statistics](<a href=“http://www.theivycoach.com/2011-ivy-league-admissions-statistics.html]2011”>http://www.theivycoach.com/2011-ivy-league-admissions-statistics.html)</p>
<p>Harvard had a 67-70% RD yield in 2007</p>
<p>in both cases ending early admissions created yields higher than their RD yields with early admissions in place.</p>
<p>Class of 2014 - Admissions Yield for Regular Decision Applicants* </p>
<p>76% - Harvard
66% - Stanford
61% - Yale
61% - MIT
57% - Princeton
48% - Penn
44% - Dartmouth
39% - Cornell
33% - Williams
28% - Northwestern</p>
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<p>**Assuming 97% yield for ED accepted students and actual EA yields for Class of 2013 as follows:</p>
<p>Stanford = 79%
Yale = 77%
MIT = 69% *</p>
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<p>As expected. Can we get similar figures for Yale, Stanford and MIT in 2007? Thanks.</p>
<p>Just throwing it out there again–is there any possible way to account for the athletes?</p>
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<p>Perhaps, or perhaps NOT. The denominator of the yield ratio is … admitted students. In order to compose of class of 2,400 freshmen, it is doubtful that Penn would be able to use the same admission ratio as in its current RD round. They would have to increase their admitted pool. The school has little input in the decision to matriculate; the school controls its admission rate. The greatest variable in dropping the ED would be the admission rate and the stable number the … yield!</p>
<p>now that thats cleared up, lets focus on the subject of the thread:</p>
<p>Class of 2014 Admissions Yields
Harvard = 76%
Stanford = 72.5%
Yale = 67%
MIT = 64%
Penn = 63%
Princeton = 56.9%
Dartmouth = 55%
UNC = 53.3%
Cornell = 49%
Virginia = 49%
Williams = 44.3%
Wisconsin = 41%
UC Berkeley = 40.4%*
UChicago = 39%
George Washington = 37.4%
Colorado College = 37%
Northwestern = 35%
Wesleyen = 35%
Smith = 34%
Iowa = 34%
Kenyon = 31%
Connecticut College = 31%
Lafayette = 29%
Whitman = 28%
SUNY (New Paltz) = 21% </p>
<p>I personally would like to congratulate Adams12’s alma mater on a stellar 6th place</p>
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<p>I, too. Still a fair showing considering their courageous move to rid themselves of the crutch that is early decision.</p>
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<p>And … what in the world does this ranking mean in the first place?</p>
<p>I will refer you to the creator of the thread: JohnAdams12</p>
<p>because i dont have a clue</p>
<p>confidentialcoll, thanks for the info</p>
<p>so using these stats, it shows that the calculated RD yield of 55% for Princeton for the class of 2011 (when ED was in effect at Princeton) would increase by about 2 percentage points when it eliminated the ED, as shown by the current Yield of 57% for the class of 2014.</p>
<p>Using these results, then Penn’s calculated 48% RD Yield would result in a 50% total Yield if it eliminated ED.</p>
<p>From 63% Yield down to 50% total yield if Penn eliminated ED.</p>
<p>good stuff and thanks again for the info</p>
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<p>no my point was that RD yields cannot be compared between Early and non early-schools.</p>
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<p>6th place for now, Columbia’s yield should come in at 59-60%. But also: overall yield is not comparable between early and non-early schools, so this is a worthless ordering. </p>
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<p>Or we could use Harvard’s change in RD yield 68–>76% so penn would go from 48–>56% if they eliminated early decision. There’s no way to know how much penn’s yield would change unless they actually ended early decish, so let’s not make calculations based on hypothetical and tenuous assumptions. Way to cherry pick the lower yeild change as well.</p>
<p>It’s one thing to have crazy opinions, but why indulge in fact massaging.</p>
<p>confidentialcoll, ahhh, a little smooth there eh?</p>
<p>you know very well that the calculated RD yield for Harvard class of 2011 was 75%, not 68%.</p>
<p>therefore, under this scenario, Penn would have a total Yield of 48% + 1pp or 49% if it eliminated ED if it was compared to Harvard’s experience.</p>
<p>It’s one thing to have crazy opinions, but why indulge in fact massaging?</p>
<p>nice try though</p>
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<p>please explain</p>
<p>confitialcoll, sure no problem, </p>
<p>but first</p>
<p>why don’t you provide the details as to how you caculated the Harvard Class of 2011 RD yield at 68% as you claim above…</p>
<p>please include those valuable links</p>
<p>anybody have Notre Dame’s yield stats? They should be once again over 50% putting them among many of the Ivies.</p>
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