admitted to UCLA but fail intermediate algebra

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<p>Im a transfer student, and I got accepted to UCLA for this fall.
I took intermediate algebra in the winter and I got a F in the class.
this math class is non-transferable.
so i took the math placement test and i got placed into college level math.
Then, I took statistics in the fall and i earned a B in the class.
Do you think failing the F would affect my admission to UCLA?</p>

<p>I talked to a counselor from my school and a peer mentor from ucla
both of them said that it wont affect my transferable gpa nor my admission to ucla.</p>

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<p>i took stats in the spring*.</p>

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<p>I’d be more scared of not being to do algebra at UCLA as a sophomore/junior.</p>

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<p>LOL! my major has nothing to do with math.</p>

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<p>You should be alright :D</p>

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<p>I think he’s saying that it’s more of a reflection of your level of commitment. Algebra is not hard even for people that “aren’t math people”. I’m not judging you as I have no idea why you failed the course; I’m just saying that you should reconsider what you’re doing, in general.</p>

<p>Edit: Also, why did you take the course if you had no need for it? Are you planning on taking the course again prior to transferring (whether for self-satisfaction or academic renewal)?</p>

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<p>i suck ass at math and still managed to pull an A- in my int. algebra class. But that information does not help you.</p>

<p>hahaha i think you’ll be fine…just dont fail anything else</p>

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<p>Seriously lol Algebra is what 8th graders take and pass every year too… lmao</p>

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<p>@ lipper: There are aspects of Algebra that still confuses me, especially when it comes to graphs and stuff like that. </p>

<p>And I also took Intermediate Algebra prior to taking Statistics, but that’s because the math placement test I took placed me into Elementary Algebra at first and after I passed that class, I moved on to Intermediate Algebra (and now Statistics).</p>

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<p>You earned a B in statistics, a <em>transferable</em> math course
no worries!</p>

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<p>I have never taken any class at a community college but have taken statistics classes at a four year university that required not only strong skills in Algebra but also knowledge of Linear Algebra and Calculus. From what I am reading here I am finding it hard to imagine what a UC transferable Statistics course at a CCC must consist of if you can fail Intermediate Algebra, normally taken in the ninth grade in high school, and still get a B in such a Statistics class.</p>

<p>I also do not understand how someone can graduate from high school in California but be assigned to Beginning Algebra, normally learned by eighth grade, in a Math placement test and that an institution that calls itself a “college” would offer such a class.</p>

<p>This making me really nervous about sending my younger son to a CCC this fall and I am now leaning towards sending him to Sac State, where he has been accepted as a Physics major, instead. I realize this would make it impossible for him to go to a UC where the upper level course offerings in Physics are more extensive than those at CSUs. However, I know from the Calculus and Physics courses my older son is taking a CSU Sacramento and the copies of midterm and final exams posted on the websites of equivalent courses at UC Berkeley and other UCs that the lower division Math and Science courses for science and engineering majors are every bit as rigorous at the CSUs as they are at the UCs. A strong foundation in the fundamentals of Math and Physics is essential for success at higher levels. I know that they use the same text book and am virtually certain that the level at which the material is taught is the same for Math 1A, Math 1B and Math 53 at UC Berkeley as Math 30, Math 31 and Math 32 at Sacramento State. However I am really starting to wonder if Math 400, Math 401 and Math 402 at Cosumnes River College is anywhere near the level of difficulty as the above courses that are supposedly equivalent to them at UC Berkeley and CSU Sacramento.</p>

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<p>lol nice monologue^</p>

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<p>@lemaitre1 I have a classmate who went to UCLA, got his BA, and is now back at a CC to do some prereqs for grad school. He’s taking the same Calc III and Linear Algebra class as I am and ended up dropping one because of difficulty and is taking at UCLA Spring Quarter instead. He told me that the course at UCLA isn’t nearly as rough as the one at the CC. Don’t let the idea of community college give off a bad impression of the standard of education being given; in a university, the lower-division classes are often taught by graduate students/TAs whereas in community college, a lot of courses are being taught by professors with doctorates in their field.</p>

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<p>@Lemaitre1 How about we give OP the benefit of the doubt? He/she could have failed the class due to a family death, crippling depression, etc. Don’t assume he/she couldn’t handle the class.</p>

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<p>I can guarantee you that the average quality of courses at my CCC was higher than at any UC as far as lower-division courses are concerned.</p>

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<p>He already asked a counselor and a rep from UCLA and got his/answer. There’s no need to poll a forum filled with panicking-overachievers.</p>

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<p>I really hope the day has not come where it is considered overachieving to be able to do algebra in college.</p>

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<p>The speed and difficulty of exam problem got harder in UC’s but the material is relatively similar in nature. </p>

<p>In C.C in a class of 30(I know they start at 60 but 1/2 the class drop by week 5) they can baby you a bit and really give you individual attention. At the UC’s it’s more about work on it yourself and maintaining that discipline.</p>

<p>Good luck in UCLA. Hopefully math isn’t your forte and thats why you struggled.</p>

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<p>@Lemaitre1</p>

<p>“I have never taken any class at a community college but have taken statistics classes at a four year university that required not only strong skills in Algebra but also knowledge of Linear Algebra and Calculus.”</p>

<p>No… It does not require Calculus and Linear Algebra. If anything, the mathematics learned in high school (not including calculus) is sufficient enough for a statistics class.</p>

<p>“From what I am reading here I am finding it hard to imagine what a UC transferable Statistics course at a CCC must consist of if you can fail Intermediate Algebra, normally taken in the ninth grade in high school, and still get a B in such a Statistics class.”</p>

<p>Obviously you are not taking into consideration personal problems that could have affected the student.</p>

<p>“I also do not understand how someone can graduate from high school in California but be assigned to Beginning Algebra, normally learned by eighth grade, in a Math placement test and that an institution that calls itself a “college” would offer such a class.”</p>

<p>CCCs do have those courses available. However the OP said they took Intermediate Algebra, which is the equivalent to Algebra II in high school which is normally taken by Sophmores AND DOES NOT transfer. Did you know that CCCs also offer every math known to man? Why it would bother you that they offer the basics is mind boggling.</p>

<p>To everything else you mentioned:</p>

<p>The only thing that is easier about CCC courses is that the student has easier access to an actual professor, not a TA or graduate student. As a Biochemistry major who transferred from a JC to UCSD, I can assure you that the science and math classes at a JC are just as rigorous. Personally, I found the math harder at the JC. </p>

<p>In any case, if your son has a good head on his shoulders he’ll be fine wherever he goes. You aren’t getting a worse education by attending a JC for the first two years of your general education… </p>

<p>My professors came from Columbia, Standford, Berkeley, San Diego, L.A., ect… Where did your TAs go?</p>

<p>NOW I’m taking my upper divisions at a UC. I’m paying less money. I am fully prepared. Not to mention I’m still getting the same degree as all of my biochem peers who have attended UCSD since freshman year. I’m looking forward to graduate school as well.</p>

<p>Stop freaking out. You’re acting strange.</p>

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<p>Don’t worry lemaitre1, having taken calculus courses at both a CCC and UC, I can tell you that they’re pretty comparable, probably because it takes more effort to dumb down the material than to just teach it straight. Oh, and I registered just to post this.</p>