Advanced Standing and AP credit

<p>Hi! I was just going through some Brown sites and came across Advanced Standing. I went through the list in [Advanced</a> Placement Information](<a href=“http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Dean_of_the_College/courses/ap.php]Advanced”>http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Dean_of_the_College/courses/ap.php) and came up with a bunch of questions :(. Honestly, I’m pretty sure the advanced standing would never happen for me, but I’m just very curious about this (and am looking for ways to procrastinate - it’s New Years!!). </p>

<p>My questions are: do you know if any PLME students can get advanced standing and still have acceptance to the Warren medical school guaranteed for an earlier year? Also, are your tuition or enrollment credits the same as listed on the link above (or are they limited to the concentration or department)? So would a 5 in BC Calculus give you two credits? And those unassigned credits for history APs…are they still credits that can be counted for Advanced Standing (and more specifically, would a class called “The Development of Scientific Medicine in Europe and the World” count as a “European history” course that would give credit to an Euro AP?) And would you recommend summer courses at Brown? </p>

<p>As you can see, I plan ahead for no reason at all hahah. And I already read that most people discourage graduating early, and I probably won’t do it, but I just want to know if it’s possible or not just in case. Any response would be appreciated and thanks in advance!! :)</p>

<p>AP scores count towards enrollment credit but not actual course credits. This means that while you are able to obtain 1-2 semesters of advanced standing through AP scores, you would still need to complete 30 Brown courses within that shortened time frame.</p>

<p>Departments that grant AP credits will do so regardless of whether you are a concentrator. However, you would have to request for those credits (i.e. they are not granted automatically) as most people won’t want those credits if it forces them to accept advanced standing.</p>

<p>The History Department classifies all of its courses by geographical and chronological designations. The course you mention counts as a European history course. See this Mocha link ([HIST1491:</a> History of Medicine II: The Development of Scientific Medicine in Europe and the World - Course Details - Mocha](<a href=“http://brown.mochacourses.com/mocha/search.action?courseNumber=HIST1491&semesters=16&view=details]HIST1491:”>http://brown.mochacourses.com/mocha/search.action?courseNumber=HIST1491&semesters=16&view=details)) with the E at the end of the course description.</p>

<p>I have no idea about the policies regarding PLME though.</p>

<p>Aleph0 is completely right.</p>

<p>As for the PLME question, I would assume that if you managed to graduate Brown in three years (something that is done extremely rarely), they’d give you acceptance to the next year. I have heard of PLMEs who have graduated in 3.5 years; they take a semester off to do research or travel, then enter Alpert with their class as usual.</p>

<p>Thank you! :slight_smile: I’m trying to figure out if I should self-study some APs (as a senior :frowning: ) to make sure I have 7 AP credits, but I don’t know how many I’m supposed to do this year because I can’t really tell how many credits I’d get from a 5 in BC Calc (“BC Calculus 4 or 5: earns credit for both Math 0090 and Math 0100”) and I can’t plan out (shouldn’t really) every class I’ll take in college for the retroactive AP credits hahah. </p>

<p>Anyways, thanks again! and if I can ask something somewhat different, can I ask about the P M E at the end of the history course descriptions? I guessed that E meant Europe till I saw it on other Asian courses and P seems to be everywhere…</p>

<p>Oooh my mistake. The letters at the end are actually chronological designations. </p>

<p>P - Pre-modern
E - Either pre-modern or modern
M - Modern</p>

<p>These are mainly for history concentrators to fulfill a chronological distribution requirement. Your course is still counts as a European history course though.</p>

<p>does anyone know if IB points can count towards course credits, not just advanced standing? not specifically for PLME, just for general.</p>

<p>Hello, high IB scores may but won’t necessarily count towards course credits. The following page explains the process (there’s a dean who handles this, though I forget their name). [International</a> Certification](<a href=“International Exam Policies and Procedures | The College | Brown University”>International Exam Policies and Procedures | The College | Brown University)</p>

<p>Brown is a pretty rare beast (or was back in the day) in that it offers substantially more advanced-standing benefits for the IB than for AP exams. I graduated with qualifying scores in four HL’s and two SL’s, so I could have skipped a massive portion of college if I had wanted to.</p>

<p>I didn’t take that opportunity. I believe that college is best consumed over four years, so I never even considered taking advantage of advanced standing. Unless you have serious financial issues, or want to do the five-year bachelors/masters program in four years, or want to take a semester off to found the next facebook, I think it’s best to ignore advanced standing opportunities.</p>

<p>From what I understand, Brown will still make you pay for four years regardless of if you complete it… Also, Brown’s requirement for graduation is 40 courses taken either at Brown or another approved Undergrad College (or something to that effect), so I do not believe they grant credit at all to anybody, save transfers</p>

<p>@bpsbgs: I believe that you are misunderstanding the stipulation regarding payment for remaining tuition units, which applies to Accelerated Graduation, not Advanced Standing. By definition, Advanced Standing allows you to graduate without paying for 8 semesters at Brown, as it gives you credit toward the residency portion of the degree requirements.</p>

<p>30 courses must be passed to graduate from Brown. AP credit will not apply to that requirement, but credit for IB and other international certification exams WILL. See [International</a> Certification](<a href=“International Exam Policies and Procedures | The College | Brown University”>International Exam Policies and Procedures | The College | Brown University)</p>

<p>I took the A Levels in high school and have obtained 8 Brown equivalent course credits for them. As such, I will be accepting 2 semesters of advanced standing and graduating in 3 years, and will pay only 6 semesters in tuition.</p>

<p>I think considering advanced standing depends largely on the context of your course of study. Out of the 8 credits I received, I used 5 of them to fulfill concentration requirements. Those are courses I would have to take if I didn’t obtain credit for them, which from my point of view doesn’t make sense because it would be like learning the same thing twice. I would like to spend the full 4 years at Brown as well, but not if one of those years involves re-learning stuff I have already learnt.</p>

<p>Thanks so much for the responses!! I really appreciate it :slight_smile:
Is it weird for a high school senior to email the dean in charge of this at this time? and Dr. Ip?</p>

<p>Wait until you get in and are making a decision, then ask at ADOCH or email. No need to think that far ahead now.</p>

<p>Oh I already got in last month (This idiotqueen92 who forgot her pw on the comp…at least its saved on my ipod :slight_smile: so I can still check it once in a while…) The name fits ;)</p>

<p>Wait, you mean you’re dbstpdud12 and you already got into PLME? If so, that’d be the thing to email your PLME advisor about when advisor assignments come out. Dean Ip is one of a few PLME advisors, and your individual advisor will be able to discuss that with you later on.</p>