<p>I would be more concerned with her doubling up based on her not easily getting algebra. Maybe that’s due to homework constraints with her sports, but I would certainly feel better if she had a solid A in algebra 1.</p>
<p>My son is also a B+/A- student overall and in math. Due to hating middle school, he was homeschooled for 1/2 of 6th and all of 7th grade, then went to a “free” school his 8th grade year. As a result, he was a year behind in math when he returned to public school in 9th grade. He took Alg. 1 in 9th grade and was approved by his math teacher to take Alg. 2 and Geometry this year (10th grade). He lasted all of one day in two math courses before going to his guidance counselor to request a schedule change! He will finish his senior year in Precalculus. Although he’s interested in Computer Science, he won’t be applying to any prestige or other top-level schools anyway, so I’m not too concerned that he’ll be at a disadvantage from not having calculus in high school. If he ends up in a non-math related field, it won’t make any difference at all.</p>
<p>My S did this path. Doubled up in Algebra 2 and Geometry. He had decided at that point he wanted to be an engineer and he was also a good science student. The path for Honors Chemistry was to take honors algebra 2 at the same time. We talked to his teachers and they agreed but he wasn’t a great student at the time. Anyways he took regular geometry and honors algebra 2 the same year. Geometry was not a problem but algebra 2 was tough. He spend lots of time on homework, lots of time. H is an engineer and he spend a lot of time helping that year. Chemistry was not a problem, in fact he went to chemistry camp that summer.</p>
<p>Doubling up was the best thing that could have happened to him. It was the year my S “found himself”. Being with the honors students motivated him and he grew in ways we could not have predicted. S is now 25. He did well in his math classes after that year. He’s now a working engineer. </p>
<p>D did not double up but she skipped pre algebra. But then we knew she had more aptitude in math. She was a much better student than S who was freshman year of HS a very average student.</p>
<p>Adding to say that it’s been a long time but I’m pretty sure that S had A’s in algebra 1 and biology freshman year. He got A’s in geometry and B’s in algebra 2.</p>
<p>I would say to let it be her decision as to whether to take the second math course as the elective or to choose some other elective, based on what she likes.</p>
<p>I do not see doubling up on geometry and algebra 2 as being insanely hard for a student who likes math and is at least decent in it, but I also do not see it as anything essential, since completion of precalculus is sufficient for all but the a few of the most selective colleges (Caltech, Harvey Mudd, engineering at WUStL) that a B+/A- student is unlikely to get into anyway.</p>
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You’ll have to ask your school’s math teacher. In NYS it was much, much less when they were doing Math A and Math B, but they’ve returned to the Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2 model and may have more now. Though my impression CC is that at most schools it’s less than our generation had.</p>
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<p>No, but partly it’s because her mom (me ) initially put it in her head that that was what we were doing but partly also because most of her friends were already doing geometry and surprised she wasn’t. So now that I am hesitating, she is more determined. She doesn’t love math and does it becomes it comes pretty easy. Doesn’t study normally or prep for tests although she has been prepping more in the past months and thus also see her grades improve. </p>
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I will present to her possible electives as well as algebra 2 amongst the mix of possible electives and see which one she picks. I think exploring electives is a great way for her to discover interests and passions. Especially for her where everything seems to be meh.</p>
<p>S2 was not a strong math student. He took Alg.1 in eighth grade and barely passed.
I knew he needed a do-over. So in ninth grade he retook Algebra 1 in the fall semester and took honors Geometry in the spring semester… had the same teacher for both. Worked out well for him. Made B’s in both. Don’t think he could have managed taking two math courses simultaneously.</p>
<p>My son did it. He is not a student at all - never does homework, but he is a natural at math without studying. He did fine - not great (due to lowered grades from not turning in homework) but did well on all his tests (even without studying). It depends on the student really and their math ability.</p>
<p>My son did not double up Geometry/Algebra1 in 9th grade. But he decided he wanted to be on track for IB HL math, so he doubled up on Algebra2 and Precalc in 10th grade. It was not until the first teacher conference that we learned that Algebra2 was supposed to be prereq to Precalc. (It’s a mystery why the GC allowed it.) Luckily he’s a whiz at math, and he did fine.</p>
<p>I would pay close attention to what the teacher says. If your D is not a top math student it may be overwhelming to take two math classes at the same time. If the teacher does not want to recommend that she double up then I would not do it.</p>
<p>Taking two math classes is time consuming. Math is a subject where there is usually daily homework so two math classes will generate lots of homework. That may be difficult for your D to manage. Math is not a subject where you can catch up on the weekend, or read on the bus on the way to a game. My kids sometimes do their reading on the bus to games, but math problems are hard to do without a good work space.</p>
<p>None of my kids doubled up in math. Two of them started Algebra I in 8th grade and finished/will finish with Calculus. My youngest started Algebra I in 7th grade and he will take Calculus in 11th grade. I am not sure what math he will take in 12th grade (maybe more Calculus?? maybe Stats??).</p>
<p>You should find out what the procedures are for withdrawing from a class if you over ride the teacher’s recommendation. My kids go to a private school and if you over ride a teacher’s recommendation you are NOT permitted to drop the class.</p>
<p>Op,
I haven’t read all of the posts so I apologize if this is a repeat.</p>
<p>Why does your child want to double up in math? What is the math sequence at your school? Is it because she or you want to get to AP Calc AB or AP Calc BC by senior year? Does she have an interest or an aptitude in math? What might she want to major in at college? These questions should be answered in order to figure out if she should double up.</p>
<p>Additionally, a 3.2 Frosh GPA might concern me about her ability to take a load with multiple core classes. It would be better to take fewer core classes and really spend her time to try to boost her grades in those fewer classes.</p>
<p>As for my experience, I doubled up on math approx 30 years ago. For some reason, I was put in regular math as a frosh, although math was my strength. Back in the day, the reg math sequence would not get to calculus level, while the advanced track would get to AP Calc AB. I doubled up with no problems (usually got As in math), and started college as a CS major.</p>
<p>I’m struck by the fact that SHE wants it. Squelching ambition is a dangerous game. I know you want to channel, not squelch. But if she is warned of the risks, and she still wants it, she will grow from the experience. GPA is not the only consideration.</p>
<p>My 8th grade S, so class of 2017, wanted to catch up with the students who were placed two levels ahead upon entering middle school. (He was placed one level ahead and has worked his way up to the honors or accelerated version of Alg 1.) </p>
<p>I fought him on this as I did not see the need to rush through the math curriculum. This group moved in lock-step throughout middle school, but they are dispersed once they hit the HS, with the twice accelerated group ending up distributed across random sections of what is essentially 10th grade honors math, or Honors Alg 2.</p>
<p>I went around and around with the H.S. with them first offering to allow him to double up on Geometry & Alg 2 as the OP’s child is considering. I was opposed to this as it would have left my son w/o an elective or w/o a free period. Typical course load is the four academic subjects, language and an elective plus one free. After further discussion, the school has agreed to allow him to take an on-line honors geometry course via CTY during the summer. The CTY course uses the same textbook our HS uses and my son will need to sit for the HS’s honors geometry final in addition to completing the on-line course, but he is just thrilled with this outcome. He truly enjoys math and has demonstrated the ability to learn on-line via edX, but as a non-math person, I cannot even contemplate wanting to teach oneself geometry during the summer!</p>
<p>I am still hesitant but once I saw how much he wanted to do this, I have decided to support him, and to pay for the CTY course. I don’t know if this would be a possibility for your D, but something to consider perhaps.</p>