<p>I"m in a quandary here. I ended up not getting the 300 level Econ classes I wanted for next semester, but I do need at least one Econ class because I'm applying to Ross. I'm also taking Calculus 2, since I would need it if I don't get into Ross and continue to major in Econ (I'm a sophomore btw and I know BBA is a 3 year program). </p>
<p>The question is, should I take Econ 401 (Intermediate Micro) with Calc 2 in the same semester? Anyone have any experience taking these two classes at the same time? </p>
<p>401 and 116 are the two most failed classes on campus, from what I've heard.</p>
<p>116 gave me a lot of troubles, despite acing 115. I don't know what it was about it, but the tests were really hard, all with averages in the 50's. If you can, try to get into the honors Calc II cause I have a few friends that took it and they said it was a lot easier.</p>
<p>I took 401 and Math 215 at the same time. 401 was tough but not impossible. 215 was actually easy, but 116 (which I gladly never took at Michigan) is supposed to be tough. If you have a knack for mathematics, are comfortable with Economics and don't mind studying really hard, go for it. Otherwise, I recommend you take just one of those two classes.</p>
<p>I took 156 instead of 116, and did very well in the class. I think it is mainly about just memorizing all of the stupid formulas...the material isn't really that hard. I don't think 156 is offered Winter semester, but if it is, DO IT. Curve is much more generous, no labs or gateways...two thumbs up for Calc II APPLIED Honors (Applied is the key word, don't do the straight honors class.)</p>
<p>As for other U-M math classes for those who might read this:</p>
<p>I thought 255 (215) was a lot of work. Maybe it just seemed that way because I had it Tuesdays and Thursday 6-8PM. I was pretty surprised to end up with an A- in the class...I think I did below average to average on the first two midterms and didn't think I did too hot on the final either. Probably what saved me was that I got perfects on all of the homeworks (big thanks to some fellow CCers on that one). </p>
<p>After making it through that Honors sequence, 216 is pretty easy. The labs are simple, homework isn't too bad, no gateways. Beat the curve by a few points on the first midterm (15% of the grade), and absolutely destroyed the curve on the second (25%). Feeling pretty good that I will get a high mark in this one.</p>
<p>Does a person have to be in the honors college to be able to take an "honors" class? Would a person from the College of Engineering have the opportunity to take any "honors" classes?</p>
<p>Honors math classes are open to all students. Regardless of whether or not you're in Honors college, you'll need to get an override from the math department to enroll in the class.</p>
<p>I wouldn't say I'm very comfortable with mathematics, but if I work really hard and spend lots of time I know I can get a decent grade. I really wonder if its worth the time and effort. I doubt I'll be able to do any extra-curricular activities with those two classes next semester. </p>
<p>Whether or not I get into Calculus 2 honors depends on what grade I get in Calc 1. I just want finals week to be over! I'm so stressed already. </p>
<p>So far my schedule looks like this: Calc 2, Econ 401, Anthro-biology, philosophy 355 (moral problems). I don't know what the latter two classes are like, but I hope they're easy so that I can focus more on Calc 2 and Econ 401. </p>
<p>I'm kinda in the same situation, I'm a transfer student entering this winter, with the plan of applying to Ross; however, I'm not sure exactly what classes to take.</p>
<p>Yeah I took a 4 credit accounting class at PSU (it combined both Financial and Managerial accounting). </p>
<p>I would have to take it again if I get into Ross. If I don't, then there's no point in taking it again. If you haven't taken it yet, it might be a good idea to take it, but make sure you have other pre-requisites done first (English 125, Micro, and Calculus 1).</p>
<p>Yeah I've taken calc 1, calc 2, english, as well as micro and macro economics. So I'm not sure what to take next semester. I'm thinking about spanish 102, anthropology, accounting, and then either calc 3 or stats, not sure yet. Have you talked to Ross advisor, and if so what did they suggest taking?</p>
<p>They definitely recommend taking an Econ course, since the b-school especially looks at your performance in Econ classes. They also like to see you taking quantitative courses such as accounting, math, etc. </p>
<p>I think you should take accounting and stats. Stats isn't so hard and would look good on your application too. Where are you transferring from?</p>
<p>MightyNick, I would say its not worth it to take Calc II. I did great in 115, but Calc II was a completely different animal. The class is deceivingly hard. The material you learn from the book and in class seems so easy, but the tests are damn hard. On the first test, not a single person scored about a 70 in my section. I struggled to score above a 50 on the tests. The competition is fierce also, as you are most likely gonna be with all engineers. </p>
<p>Then again, I'm not a math person at all, but I assumed that, since I did well in 115, 116 wouldn't be a problem.</p>
<p>Well what can you do...As an Econ major, I have to take at least one Econ class next semester. Hope I can get an override for one of the 300 level Econ classes, or else I'll have to suck it up and just take Econ 401. My Econ advisor also encouraged me to take Calculus 2, since its important for Econ major to take higher level Math courses. </p>
<p>CCRunner, i know a lot of people get 50's and 60's on Calc 2 exams, but aren't the curves really high? A 50 should've given you a B! My roomate is taking that class right now and he says its his easiest one (but he's an engineering major). I think I'll finally make up my mind after I take the Calc 1 final though, which I think I'm gonna bomb because I'm on CC right now.</p>
<p>^^ Haha that's what I thought too. That is exactly the reason why I took that class. Don't get me wrong...she's a great teacher and makes lectures very interesting. However, the exams are hard and require a lot of memorization. And since you're taking Orgo, Chem and Bio, Psych shouldn't be that bad compared to the rest of them. It's not a blow of class by any means though.</p>
<p>The curve is ok, but a 50 is usually a C+, so not that great considering how difficult the exams are.</p>
<p>But, like I said, I'm not a math person. I just assumed that, since I rocked 115, Calc II wouldn't be a problem. For all I know, you could be really good at math.</p>
<p>And, Cvjn, Nolta is teaching 210 next semester? I didn't know that.</p>
<p>I'm planning on taking psych 111 next semester also to make my courseload easier. I've heard it's easy. Hopefully I'm not with Schreier, I don't remember.</p>