I am currently attending a community college in norcal of United States. I am going to apply to berkeley and other ucs for admission in business next year. With a 4.0, I have a good change into the Haas undergrad program. However, I do not prefer any UC to UBC/ Mcgill. I have applied to both of those for fall of 2020, I had already been accepted last year to both but decided to stay in the US. I am a Canadian citizen, so going to a canadian school would be much more convenient. I hope to become an investment banker or something related in finance. Would going to UBC or Mcgill be a viable option rather than berkeley? Cost does not matter, I just feel like those canadian schools are better environments for me. Though, getting a high paying job out of college is significant for me too. Please provide your insights
Do you also have US citizenship or permanent residence? This is likely to have a significant impact on your chances of getting employment in the US after graduating from a university in the US.
Also, would you be paying in-state or out-of-state tuition at the various Universities of California?
Certainly McGill and UBC are very well known in the US.
I have been in the US since I was 10(8 years) on a dependent visa… my father applied for citizenship several years back. The estimation is that we are supposed to become citizens by next year, so well before I finish my studies. I will be paying in-state at UC’s. My sisters are attending UCLA right now and it’s only costing them 25k/year.
Oh really? It seems like no counselor or anyone I have talked to over here has a clue about either one of those schools. The only school Americans really know about is University of Toronto.
So, cost wise it would be cheaper to attend university in Canada. Although, that isn’t that great of a factor for me. The biggest reason I was looking into school over there was because I can legally work on campus, as my visa does not allow me that privilege in the states for now( hopefully next year or the year after I will be good for that). Furthermore, I like the weather much more as I originally grew up in Canada(Toronto) so I really miss the snow. The positive of attending berkeley is that I have many opportunities and higher paying options and that is what is holding me back from Canadian schools. Brand name is a big deal and I’m not really sure what opportunities are available from those schools.
Interesting question. May depend upon where you want to live & work for the decades following college.
McGill is well known in the US as is U of T, but I suspect that rescruiting may be skewed toward the Northeast US. Not sure how well UBC places in the US.
The safest bet is to attend UCal-Berkeley is you want to live & work in the US after college.
However, if you do not get into Haas (the business school at UC-Berkeley), but do get direct admission to business / commerce major at UBC or U of T, then Canada might be the wiser choice.
Of course, if you plan on earning an MBA, York & U of T are solid options that may (I don’t know for sure) be available to you at Canadian tuition rates–as opposed to paying the rate for an international student–which is the highest tuition rate charged by Canadian universities.
McGill is way more known in the US than UofT
@yw123: I don’t think that that is accurate. Definitely not accurate with respect to law school & MBA.
Not true at all.
Between McGill, Toronto, and UC Berkeley I don’t think that there is all that much difference in terms of their reputation or how well known they are. They are all academically challenging and very well known large universities with great reputations and all are very well known, probably worldwide. UBC is also very well known throughout the US and Canada, although possibly not quite as ubiquitously. I do not think that I would pick one based on reputation, simply because they are all so strong in that regard.
Some US recruiters will show up at McGill and Toronto, but of course in terms of US recruiters coming on campus to interview students Berkeley would have an edge.
“I really miss the snow”
UBC is not going to have much snow. It rains a lot in Vancouver in the winter. If you drive north for two hours you will get some snow and great skiing, but not in Vancouver.
If your father gets US citizenship while you are out of the country, does that have any impact on your citizenship? This is something that I do not know, but you should probably check.
It’s interesting to read the claims that UBC is well known in the US & that McGill is better known in the US than is the Univ. of Toronto. It must depend upon the profession or industry.
Nope it is true. Especially in the northeast of the US, McGill tends to be more popular among US Citizens. I also heard that people who do honours program at McGill would have a very high chance of being accepted into a Masters Programme at one of the 8 Ivy League Unis. In fact, many of McGill graduates have pursued a postgraduate at Harvard.
If you will end up with dual citizenship, it really depends on where you want to work after graduation. And this is assuming that you get in to the b-school everywhere.
If you want to work in Canada, pick one of the Canadian unis. If you want to work in the US (or anywhere outside of Canada, really), pick Haas if you get the opportunity. Recruiting will be heavily by companies from the home country looking for citizens/permanent residents of the home country.
For most Americans the only colleges they have heard of are their local colleges, a few of the Ivies and the Sports Illustrated top 25. Sadly some of these people are guidance counselors.
I am not really sure where I want to work, the dream is New York because of the high salaries. However, I am open to working in Canada if there are good opportunities. A family friend’s son went to Mcgill and he got a job as an investment banker in New York. Apparently Mcgill gets a lot of American recruiters.
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NYC has insanely high living costs too.
NYC is a lot of fun if you’re young with time and money (but so is Toronto; so is SF), but if you’re an IB analyst, you will have zero free time and you won’t really be able to save much considering how much it costs to live there.