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<p>35 is equivalent to 2360 according to this conversion table.
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<p>My D took the ACT and got a 35 as a junior, last year she got into H and Y with that score. She did end up taking the SAT at the last minute (I think Nov of senior year) since she was a NMSF. She did get the 2500 NM scholarship but I don’t recall her SAT score as being outstanding something like 760’s in each area. She later retook the ACT for a 36 for a scholarship but had already submitted her apps with the 35 ACT that gave her acceptances. I hope this helps. I’d say of you are not NM save the Sat morning for something fun or sleeping in. Congrats to your son, it’s nice to have that over with early. My D did not apply to MIT.</p>
<p>“35 on ACT need to take SAT?”</p>
<p>Depends. If he’s capable of 144 ACT or 2400 SAT with 2 weeks of studying, then yes. Just for the fun of it and a perfect score certainly helps not hurts his applications.</p>
<p>144 ACT??? Ummm… now THAT would be a feat!!</p>
<p>Are there 4 sections to ACT? Maybe lake42ks meant 4 X 36.</p>
<p>Ahh- if you add the 4 sections together and get a 36 on each of the 4 sections, that adds up. Actually, isnt there an optional 5th section now?</p>
<p>Was thinking of the composite score, which is what we usually talk about here</p>
<p>I will just repeat myself here – if your kid tests exceptionally well without a lot of trauma and prep then it certainly doesn’t hurt the application to throw in a perfect or near perfect SAT along with the 35. If your kid is already nicely hooked in some way, then probably dumb to bother. If your kid is mostly a gpa/test scores candidate with pretty standard ECs then a lot of great scores might help. </p>
<p>Also, I believe schools report their ranges for both the SAT and ACT. Snagging an applicant who lifts both ranges for them is not a bad thing, surely?</p>
<p>My older s didnt even report his ACT (I am pretty sure it was a 34, possibly a 33, I don’t recall for sure) because he did better on the SAT. Wonder if it would have made a difference one way or the other. Why report a lower score when it isnt necessary?</p>
<p>I really don’t think colleges parse the SAT and ACT scores the way sewhappy thinks. I don’t think they care if you get your scores in one sitting and I don’t think that someone who does well on the ACT and SAT will get extra brownie points. I don’t think the 780 gets the nod over the 770 either. But of course I did hear the Yale admissions officer say “The SAT is less important than you think and more important than we like to admit.” I did think the quote from MIT about the ACT was interesting - and a warning not to count on those concordance tables too much.</p>
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<p>Good call. Since your son is very exceptional and you could use some $$ towards college, I think he should take the SAT I since he’ll be a NMSF. It’s worth the risk and honestly, it’s not that hard of a test and he wouldn’t have to study much. He’d just need to become familiar with the format since it’s different from the ACT.</p>
<p>OP, looking at another of your posts, I see that your son is possibly interested in engineering, that his science and math subscores were a tad lower, and that he’s interested in applying to competitive schools. Given all that, it might possibly be worthwhile to either retake the ACT, if the colleges he’s considering superscore the ACT, in the hopes of boosting his subscores. Alternatively, he could give the SAT a spin, and see if he does better with the math section in that format. If he has taken any SAT subject tests in math or science (sorry if I missed mention of those) and has strong scores on those, that might serve the same purpose. </p>
<p>OR, it might not make any difference at all. Haunt and/or question the forums here for the schools he’s considering, as well as the school websites, to see if anyone there has good advice. You could also have your son call his regional rep and ask if it’s worthwhile to get those area subscores higher, especially if he’d be applying to an engineering school. If your son has other factors which strongly showcase his STEM side (high grades in challenging STEM classes, strong recommendations from STEM subject teachers, STEM-related ECs and/or awards) then the subscores might not make any difference at all.</p>
<p>Other than that, I agree with mathmom that adcoms just want to see a strong superscored score in one or the other test. If anything, I’d expect schools to prefer having the SAT or ACT and some SAT subject tests over having the SAT and the ACT…but more and more schools have reduced or eliminated requiring SAT IIs.</p>
<p>Just depends on what the OP’s kid’s goal is.</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s worth re-taking to up the 35 to a 36. Indeed, not. I do think presenting an SAT at a similarly exceptional level would give some heft to his application, possibly. It also, would demonstrate the 35 was not a fluke. Also, that he possesses a degree of poise under the stress of test taking. These aren’t bad things. They aren’t critically important, probably. But they may help. No one can really be certain. So my take would be to pay for my kid to take the SAT if they wanted to take the SAT and submit that score if it is as good as the ACT score.</p>
<p>I’m with mathmom in the camp that says, submitting multiple good test scores does NOT earn you brownie points. If schools start rewarding repeat testing, they open themselves up to charges of (even more) bias in favor of “the haves.” </p>
<p>If it takes multiple sittings to achieve a test score you are proud to submit, that’s one thing; but when you hit it, you are done!</p>
<p>Thank you for all of the thoughful input. S has spoken to his GC and he feels he can be one and done. S did not study or practice for the test other than taking the PLAN last year. His PSAT scores have the math at the 90th percentile. S has taken SAT II in physics(660) and Bio(710). At this point S is going to practice for the June Math II and Chemistry SAT II. Hopefully, he will score well on those tests and that will help to demonstrate his strength in Math and Science.</p>
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<p>jym, I first learned of that from QuantMech (<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/13303152-post14.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/13303152-post14.html</a>) where 144ACT = 1600SAT > 143/142ACT (the other 36s).</p>
<p>I think mathmom is right that colleges only see the highest scores (combined or not).</p>
<p>ctmom2013, I think that’s a great decision–congrats to your son on being “one and done” with that piece! I assume you are familiar with the subject test percentile rankings, but just in case you haven’t taken a look at the data, here’s the most recent report. He’s wise to prepare for and retake Math II – because the testers are self-selecting math types and the curve is so generous, an 800 is extremely common and, incredibly, 87th percentile! </p>
<p><a href=“http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/SAT-Subject_Tests_Percentile_Ranks_2011.pdf[/url]”>http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/SAT-Subject_Tests_Percentile_Ranks_2011.pdf</a></p>
<p>^ But I should quickly add that I haven’t heard of schools giving that much emphasis to subject test percentile rankings beyond math II; it seems that, as a general rule, the admissions analysis shifts to a score band approach, e.g., anything 650+ is strong, scores over 700 are really terrific! YMMV - Good luck to your son and family!</p>
<p>I’m with mathmom and TXartemis…unless you have a future psychology major who is fascinated by test design (like me), save yourself the trouble. Every quantum of rest and peace these high schoolers can get is valuable in my book.</p>
<p>^ the colleges see the highest SAT subscores AND the highest ACT scores. They also report both on their common data set. </p>
<p>I guess I just don’t understand the huge fear and loathing of taking a test another Saturday. It was not a big deal for my kids. I guess for some families it’s a really stressful, traumatic enterprise.</p>
<p>Again, if the OP’s kid is not aiming for stratospheric schools then of course stick with the 35 and call it a day. It just depends on the objective.</p>
<p>Wouldn’t taking the SAT create the risk of a “bombed” score, that must be submitted if OP’s kid submits his SAT II’s?</p>