<p>I received a phone call AND a message on e-advising to get off the waitlist because the department will not open up new sections or offer more spots in sections if there are sections still unfilled. Did anyone else hear from advising about the waitlist? </p>
<p>I'm going to refrain from talking about specifically which class or adviser because you never know who's crawling the web these days.</p>
<p>Hahaha I never suggested I would follow the advice. They make it seem as if we're on the waitlist to see if new sections would open up, which is just ludicrous. Why even have a waitlist in the first place then? Obviously, we're waiting for people to GTFO of the class.</p>
<p>If you look at ratemyprofessors.com and CAPE you can see that johnson is an amazing professor while the other one is terrible. What's the point of even taking the class if you won't learn anything because your professor sucks?</p>
<p>I avoid waitlist unless there is no other class open. People need to realize that the teachers aren't the end all to the class. In college you learn, the teacher doesn't really teach. I mean the lectures are helpful, but at the end of the day it is all on you.</p>
<p>You guys are going to get in a tough situation when you don't get your favorite teacher, and there are no other sections open. Very dumb idea, what some of you are doing.</p>
<p>yeah seriously. i try to avoid waitlisting too until i have no choice and i absolutely need that class. you will be surprised how your professors turn out. i didn't waitlist at all my first quarter (save a seminar that i got into) and i was pleasantly surprised with how awesome (in general) my professors were, despite a few negative reviews here and there. you might as well take whatever professor since YOU are going to form your own judgments on teachers. if you go in having heard about how terrible some teacher is, you're going to be biased before he even picks up the chalk. deal with it first quarter and maybe next quarter you'll get a better enrollment time.</p>
<p>People do not necessarily choose one professor over another simply because they "teach" better. Some professors structure their class in a way that may or may not be appealing to students. For example, many detractors of Czworkowski complain because they don't like his style of tests, where there are few questions and whose answers are not always detailed enough to offer opportunities for partial credit. As a result, your score can go down the drain quickly for missing seemingly few things.</p>
<p>Stop advising us to sample stuff like we're at Costco and to pick ourselves up in Winter 2007 if heads are rolling. It's like saying, "Don't just assume what your astronomy teacher says about the Earth revolving about the Sun is true! You ought to travel to the Sun and witness whatever phenomenon occurs yourself!!" Some things are FACT, and it is those FACTS that turn us off to certain professors.</p>
<p>Well it's a choice between not taking the class that you need versus waiting an extra quarter to get the professor you want so much (and by then, maybe only 1-2 professors are teaching and they both stink, then what's the point?). if you want to be behind, then that's your choice. if you need the class, you need the class. picking times and professors only works when you actually have choices. waitlisting is an option if classes conflict and you must get that time, if all classes are closed, etc. waitlisting sucks because you're attending the class, not knowing if you'll get in and when you don't, wow looks like you're a quarter behind everyone else because you made a stupid choice (or smart, if you're on the 5-year plan)</p>
<p>i disliked czworkowski and his tests, but IF you really knew your stuff backwards and forwards, you could finish all of his tests in 20 minutes flat. no joke, i've seen people who study hard do that. he may say he's not curving (to motivate you all to work harder) but in the end, an 80% was an A and there were chances for redemption (i.e. extra credit) so you could miss 2 questions off each of his 12-question tests and still be fine.</p>
<p>"For example, many detractors of Czworkowski complain because they don't like his style of tests, where there are few questions and whose answers are not always detailed enough to offer opportunities for partial credit. As a result, your score can go down the drain quickly for missing seemingly few things."</p>
<p>You know what you need to do then? Study harder. Everyone makes excuses, it's annoying.</p>
<p>guys, did you check the new student gateway? this is what it says:</p>
<p>"Attention 2007 First-Year Students:</p>
<p>During your enrollment access period time, you may notice certain sections in the lower division Math and Chemistry courses might be at seating capacity. If you are attempting to enroll for a Math and/or Chemistry section that is full, we recommend you enroll into the waitlist section. Both the Math and Chemistry department are working in resolving this issue in order to accommodate student need. You will receive an email from the Math and Chemistry department as seats become available on how to enroll for the section you waitlisted.</p>
<p>For those students who have not submitted AP scores or have not taken the Math Placement Exam by the September date, the Math and Chemistry departments will be able to accommodate you with the appropriate course needed to enroll."</p>