<p>cornell is one of my top choices right now and im gonna major in economics in arts and sciences if i get in...im interested in business...but the banking/ investment side more than the management side...lately...</p>
<p>My question...more like my thoughts really...what would be the advantage of going into AEM as opposed to taking econ and vice versa? I just want to hear some thoughts because i brushed AEM early in the college process and now im thinking more about it...</p>
<p>anybody want to help me out?</p>
<p>AEM is one of only two AACSB? authorized programs in the ivy league. Only Wharton has the other program. VERY selective. 19% acceptance rate. Economics is the largest major at CAS.</p>
<p>i got into econ in CAS.
u can take courses from AEM, but obviously you get a different degree.
i've heard that AEM is pretty tough to get into, but that shouldnt be the reason you apply to econ instead.
in terms of after cornell, majoring in econ wont really limit your job/grad school choices.</p>
<p>I'm also an Econ ED</p>
<p>ok...econ EDs...did you guys consider the AEM program?
Why'd you pick econ at CAS...</p>
<p>This is a comparison that the Econ department offers:</p>
<p>"The Department of Applied Economics and Management, in the School of Agriculture and Life Sciences, offers an undergraduate business program that focuses on skills in such areas as accounting, marketing, finance, management, and human resources and organizational behavior. Economics, in contrast, does not provide specific business-related skills -- and, in fact, business courses are not applicable toward the Econ major. Instead, Economics tries to (1) provide a rigorous grounding in analytical and statistical techniques and (2) instill a proven method of framing problems and pursuing solutions -- a method that is applicable in personal, business, and governmental decision-making, and across a broad range of academic disciplines. In other words, a business degree prepares you for a particular career, whereas an Economics degree opens doors to many different careers, without providing (within the major itself) the skills specific to any one. Of course, you can always supplement your Econ major with business courses in other departments, to get the best of both worlds."</p>
<p>There are only 8 required courses in Econ and you can take those courses while enrolled in AEM if you like. They are both very strong majors at Cornell, and you can't make a bad choice. If you are a NY State resident, you will be saving your parents a lot of money in AEM!</p>
<p>FYI
If you are enrolled in CALS, you must take a minimum of 55 credits in CALS toward a 120 minimum credit graduation requirement. Included in your discounted tuition (if you are a NYS resident) you can take up to 55 credits in the endowed colleges (Arts & Sciences, AA&P, Engineering, Hotel). You could take a lot of Econ courses with that allotment, but you wouldn't be able to double major with AEM and Econ. You can only double major within your college, I believe.</p>
<p>I am an AEM major..i-banks recruit mostly from AEM and woudl definitely be more benefitcial than Econ...AEM has more ibankers on wall street tahn any b-school in the country besides wharton...its a fact..we do very well with banking...but AEM is also very hard to get into.</p>
<p>If you're in AEM, is there any connection to the agriculture school...i know that there are a couple of required classes you have to take but, for the most part, is it two separate fields really?</p>
<p>What genius put the business program in the agriculture school....</p>
<p>once you get in, how hard is it to change majors? Like if on my app i put nutrition as my major- would it be easy or hard to transfer into the business program?</p>
<p>I'm in a similar postion; I'm was accepted to CAS with a tenative major in economics. I'm seriously considering transfering to the AEM program though. I would like to land a job at a consulting firm or investment banking firm and I know AEM would be better for that.</p>
<p>how do you know AEM is better for that?</p>
<p>I didn't opt for AEM for a number of reasons. 1) Too hard to get into. 2) I'm not a big fan of sitting by a computer and numbercrunching for about 8 hours to get a big salary. I'm more interested in becoming an economsit / working at consulting. I'm also considering Law School. I have a major appetite for questions in religion, history, economics, and other subjects. AEM wouldn't satisfy that so I chose CAS Econ.</p>
<p>I just got into the Communications major in CALS for ED...I have since realized that I would much rather be in AEM. Does anyone know if it is it hard to switch your major to AEM (from another major in the Ag. school)?</p>
<p>BigJake: Ive been reading your posts for a while now and I am impressed with how thorough your research is and how thoughtful your posts are. Personally, I am not comfortable telling a student where its best for them to apply, because I dont think I can do so responsibly while only knowing them in sound bites from posts on this board. I am still keeping my fingers crossed for you that you get admitted into Wharton, because I know how much you like their program. Im not advising you to apply to Economics in CAS or AEM in CALS, but it seems from the history of your posts that you are not entirely comfortable attending CALS. Choosing a college is all about fit; you have to decide where you would like to spend the next four years of you life. My advise to you would be to choose based on your comfort level, and it seems like you are most comfortable in CAS (Oops! I broke my own rule!) The answer to your question If you're in AEM, is there any connection to the agriculture school...i know that there are a couple of required classes you have to take but, for the most part, is it two separate fields really? As an AEM major you are matriculating in CALS you are most defiantly an Aggie! Its not two separate fields, its one major under the umbrella of a college that houses many majors, including Communications, which is not generally associated with agriculture either. </p>
<p>Ill try to give you a little history about why business is in CALS. The acronym AEM is fairly new. The business program in CALS has gone through many transformations. I could write a tome on this, but CALS started as the NYS land grant college (Google- The Morrill Act, July 2, 1862). Farmers attended that College - since farming was a big business in those days, that's how business originated there. The first business program was called Agricultural Economics. Over time, the program grew and changed as the population changed. Today, you can still major in Agriculture Economics, but the major that you are inquiring about in AEM is strictly the Business major. As a side note, the College of Human Ecology used to be called the College of Home Economics. This was originally called the Farmers Wives Reading Course and was part of Ag until it became a separate college!</p>
<p>Back to AEM, one of the reasons why it has become so competitive to gain admission to is due to the accreditation. Contingent on accreditation, they had to lower the student/faculty ratio. I think I mentioned this to you in another post this is the first year it was ranked in USNWR and coming in at #14 in undergraduate business programs is great for a first time ranking. It is also extremely popular because of its reputation as a strong program in terms of networking, recruiting and educationally. Wharton and AEM are the only two accredited undergraduate business programs in the Ivy League. I dont know as much about Economics in CAS, but Ive heard that they have excellent outcomes in terms of recruiting and graduate schools as well. Basically, students that want an undergraduate business degree would be interested in AEM, and students interested in business on a macro (broad) level might be more inclined to choose Economics. </p>
<p>On one of your posts, you asked about the flexibility of AEM. I mentioned in a previous post how many courses you can take in the endowed colleges, including CAS (up to 55 credits), so its flexible from that standpoint, but your interests seem extremely suited for CAS since you expressed an interest in studying history, political science, classics and foreign language. CAS is really a liberal arts college that is perfect for someone like you with a broad range of interests. On the flip side of that, I searched some of your other posts and noticed that you are doing science research and there is a strong science component in AEM as in every major in CALS. They might like to see your strong interest in science. </p>
<p>I think you should visit Cornell to get a feeling for these programs. Make appointments for the tour, plus info sessions for CALS and CAS. You might want to sit in on some classes. Perhaps you should call Cornell Careers Services to inquire about different career paths from each of the majors. </p>
<p>Hope this helps. You cant make a bad choice. If youre not happy, once there you can apply for an internal transfer. Hopefully you'll be accepted to your first choice college, so this won't matter in the long run!</p>
<p>Ash05: I think you have to start in Communications and then go through the process of transferring. As soon as you are assigned a faculty advisor, I would e-mail him/her.</p>
<p>AEM is super, super tough to get into, especially from out of state. I should know, I got rejected. Wish I applied to economics instead :(</p>
<p>Nagromis, i don't how to thank you enough for all that information. Come to think of it: you're right. I don't really want to go to the agriculture school. I want to study business, but, for cornell in particular, i guess arts and sciences would be better for me. </p>
<p>What you just said about science research is actually exactly the same thing my counselor told me. She said that the ag school has a strong research program and that if i applied to AEM, talked about my interest in business and showed them my research, i would be a great fit. The thing is...through my research, i've come to realize that i don't like science...theres no passion for it in me...i would rather study abroad or do cornell's observatory program in puerto rico (I love this!). Thanks a lot for your post. I don't know how you did it but you read my mind. And btw i only wish that my research was as thorough as you say. I dismissed AEM very early on when looking at cornell so i don't know much about it. I'll have to do some thinking, but i think i'll do arts. And thanks a lot abotu wharton. I'm still hoping they'll want me. </p>
<p>BTW, are you a student at cornell? And could i possibly have your email or screen name?</p>
<p>dude, AEM is mad hard to get into. Kids who I thought were perfect get rejected. If you're a strong candidate and AEM is really what you're aiming for, then go for it. If you want less of a pre-professional emphasis on it, go for Econ in CAS. I personally prefer Econ.</p>
<p>Oh, and I'm in state, so I'm assuming it's even harder out of state.</p>
<p>hey natalyaboberto-
do you know the stats for some of the people you kno that got rejected?
i'm applyin to AEM... and am extremelyyy nervous now after reading all these posts.
i'm out of state as well. :(</p>