@BatesParent2019 most of my friends said so (some of them are currently the student in the school). By the way, If it’s making you uncomfortable, I’m sorry for saying that. I didn’t mean it.
Actually, the only school out of the 4 that I named that has an Aerospace department is GT. Alson there are some public schools that are better than the ivy’s simply because they get so much money from the state governments.
This is a list of really good state schools for engineering:
Purdue
Georgia Tech
UCB
UMich
UIUC
UCSB
UCLA
UTAustin
UCSD
If you definitely want to do aerospace engineering, get a degree in aerospace engineering. Michigan was the fist university in this country to teach aeronautical engineering. It has always been among the very best in aerospace.
" My counseler does not like UMich because the school is huge and she said the rank in engineering means nothing since most of the money will get into the graduate ? Is that true?"
As usual, high school counselors are typically ignorant. Michigan has a stellar worldwide engineering reputation. It is well deserved.
“How did you come to decide that Cornell is in the middle of nowhere?”
Cornell is a fantastic school, but it is the middle of nowhere. For a foreign student it does not have close by access to an international airport.
Perhaps being in the middle of nowhere is what helps develop their “school pride”, which really impresses me about Cornell. Seeing the pride on the faces of the foreign parents in particular, at graduation was really something.
^^^^^You’ll see that sense of pride at many of the top elites. Cornell is not unique in that regard.
U.S. Aerospace technology firms hire Mechanical Engineering B.S. grads all of the time. UTC, Pratt & Whitney, GE Aerospace, Boeing, NASA etc. They regularly recruit and hire undergraduate ME majors for all kinds of jobs in their respective companies. One caveat; as noted before, most internships and permanent jobs will be restricted to U.S. citizens or individuals who obtain sponsorship (not likely). Therefore, an international student may want investigate internships with companies based abroad, like BAE, Alstom SA, Bombardier or Siemens.
@rjkofnovi That’s what appears on most internet resources. But do you know why UMich is not having a high ranking and reputation as Northwestern (is this true? that’s what a lot of people say). It is no doubt that UMich graduate school is the top of the world. What I am worrying is more like UMich undergraduate may be not as strong as it appears? My counselor’s argument is the money that support the education will give to the graduate school but not under graduate school. As I give an example before, people go to graduate school in Purdue but rarely of them choose to go to Purdue for undergraduate. That’s what makes me so confusing.
@LakeWashington thanks a lot for your information. Does does companies based abroad give a lot of jobs to international students? (with a Master Degree) I am willing to move around.
I did look up from several internet sources and they said an AE degree will be very harsh and tight. So I think I decided to study Mechanical Engineering instead; but I think I will take some course in aeronautical rather than astronautical. Then, if I still keep my deep interest in Aerospace Engineering, I will study it for my Master Degree afterwards since a lot of people said it does not matter.
So, in terms of Mechanical Engineering, same question again, University of Michigan or Northwestern University ? Please put aside financial reasons, it is really important to me but I don’t want to use it as a consideration at this moment.
UMich’s ranking isn’t as high as Northwestern because it is a public school. In the US public schools are required to accept a plethora of kids from their states whereas Northwestern has the abililty to be selective becausw it is a private school. With that being said I have many friends that have gone to UMich for engineering. The people i know that have gone to Northwestern have gone for Buisiness and PreMed.
“But do you know why UMich is not having a high ranking and reputation as Northwestern (is this true? that’s what a lot of people say).”
Because too many high schoolers, and their counselors, are slaves to USNWR rankings. These rankings have been biased against top public schools for decades. If you look at the peer assessment scores by university officials, the same people who will be evaluating your undergraduate degree for graduate school, you will see that Michigan is right up there with NU and most of the top elite schools of this country.
“As I give an example before, people go to graduate school in Purdue but rarely of them choose to go to Purdue for undergraduate. That’s what makes me so confusing.”
With all due respect to Purdue, Michigan is on an entirely different level when it comes to overall academics. These schools are not peers.
I think that your counselor is doing you a disservice.
I gather that your counselor is not a U.S. citizen and is unfamiliar with our schools? He /she can’t possibly know the rigors of each American university as we have over 3000 universities and that counselor is probably going on hearsay or something else. Rankings don’t matter when you have a degree.
Michigan is a very tough university to gain admittance. You would be extremely fortunate if you got into that university which is going to cost you some big bucks. Your counselor is misguided and naive.
In the US, our universities are very good and you might not be admitted anywhere. It happens more often than not.
“Northwestern isn’t renowned for its engineering like UMich is, and frankly its a lot harder to get into and more expensive, at least for US students.”
Actually Mohchan, NU’s Engineering programs are very well regarded, and Northwestern is not harder to get into for OOS and international applicants. There was a time when NU was more selective, but those days are gone. At this time, I would say the two universities have similar admission standards for students who are not residents of Michigan.
“How did you come to decide that Cornell is in the middle of nowhere?”
BatesParent, I went to Cornell for graduate school. I had a great time and loved campus life. That being said, Cornell is definitely isolated. However, with 30,000 students (if you include Ithaca college), Ithaca will certainly satisfy a student’s appetite for extracurricular activities, socializing etc…
“For an extra questions, for me as an international student, does anyone know what is the total money (tuition and living cost) for NW and UMich ?”
HuyTranDang, Northwestern will cost slightly more than Michigan, but both will be expensive (I would estimate $70k/year for Michigan and $75k/year for NU if you include room & board, books, insurance, travel, entertainment, clothes etc…).
“My counselor does not like UMich because the school is huge and she said the rank in engineering means nothing since most of the money will get into the graduate ? Is that true?”
Your counselor is only partly correct. Michigan is huge. That’s the part your counselor got right. However, the University has the resources to counter it. For example, NU has 3,500 Engineering students (1,700 undergraduate, 1,800 graduate), and a faculty of 180. Michigan has 9,400 Engineering students (6,200 undergraduate, 3,200 graduate), and a faculty of 450 to teach them. Michigan will also have significantly larger and equally good facilities. In terms of quality, both will be great.
^^^Also notice that NU has MORE graduate students enrolled in Engineering than undergraduate. Realistically, how could it possibly be inferred that undergraduates get more attention at NU?
@rjkofnovi Hi, thank you for your information. Do you know what is the acceptance rate of UMich for international student ? Since I think Umich acceptance rate is high because they have to take some in-state kids.
My counselor also said that if I went to NU and I want to change school, it is much easier for me to change from NU to other school rather than from UMich to other school. And even if I want to change my major (which I don’t think I am), it is safer in Northwesterb rather UMich. Can anyone confirm this ? Thanks a lot.
Does Meteorology and aerospace have the same course requirements?
@“aunt bea” I study highschool in America so I do know those basic information. Thanks
@Alexandre thank you so much for those informations. I have 1 question about the tuition. When I search in their website for tuition fee, meal, living (double room), books, ext…, the total expense for UMich will be around 55000$ and for NW will be around 66000$. What makes the cost goes up to 70/75 000 $ ?
As for the tuition, both tuitions for me is afforadable, yet is there any worth in NW that I had to spent an extra 10000$ in terms of education ?