<p>yea you too good job with your SAT's that is really impressive</p>
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THIS IS FOR SYBBIE^^^^^ those with great grades and even decent grades go to the IVY LEAGUE leaving other great and competitive schools to pull from an even smaller group of African Americans
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<p>Not necessarily, because the majority of students in this country including AA's go to their state universities (this may be hard to see through the CC lens because this group is pretty much a self selected on that are looking at different schools and no where near representative of the admissions pool at large). </p>
<p>Some AAs with great scores, and SATs also attend the HBCUs because they many come from families who have also attended and many get a free ride (vs. having to pay something to attend the ivies). </p>
<p>Still others have to take the exonomically feasible route of going where there money can take them or where they can receive scholarship money.</p>
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the majority of black people don't atend your school (generalization) most live in areas like new Orlean, LA, NY, in bad public school system
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<p>I totally understand that the majority of blacks do not attend my school (as I am currently a PhD studtent at NYU and have also completed masters programs at Cornell and NYU :) ), however, my daughter whose SAT score was over 250 points higher than those you present and had a 3.97 uw gpa at one of the top NYC publics with A's in college courses at NYU and Barnard, 4/5's on her ap's received a large number of fly-in invitations, I told her that she would not be a shoo-in at Amherst.</p>
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Berkeley reacieved lots of apps from Blacks but those that could get in on grades and no URM hook don't want to go to Berkeley when they got accepted to Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Harvard etc.. Do you understand what i'm trying to say. In effect all African americans benifit because now I can apply to Berkeley and they know the 4.0's they accepted aren't going to come so they accept me because they know i don't have that Harcard option.
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<p>The overall process for being admitted to Berkely has not changed regardless of color. Even if those AA who choose to go to the Ivies or other select schools this still does not change your lot in life because your URM status does nothing for you at the UCs. Those who most likely did not attend berkley because they attended "more selective" schools, alos probably had higher grades and SATs than you are presenting.</p>
<p>You state that you are from a middle class family and both your parents are college grads, so no points from being a first generation, poor or attending a low performing school (for those whom much has been given much is required).</p>
<p>Did you recieve an ELC letter from UC which would essentially give you priority admission to the UC's. ? At the end of the day the UC's is still pretty much a numbers driven process and there will be many who bring better numbers to the table.
That is not to say that you should not throw your hat in the ring if this is what you want but don't toss all your eggs in one basket and cast a wide net.</p>
<p>All the best</p>
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ummm... yea i dont think you have any chance at berkeley, stanford, amherst or any of the sort. Im an african-american urm with stats higher than yours and i know a lot of other african-american urm's with stats better than mine. I think your giving a little too much weight to this urm thing. URM's are getting a lot more competitive.
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<p>If your sat individuals aren't at least mid 700's and your GPA isn't above 3.5 you aren't really top 10 percent. This guy is a little full of himself. A 1720 with a 3.3 and he thinks he is top 10 AA??? Come on, no offense here but that just isn't true. Just make sure you have a balanced list (and look out of state and at in-state privates) and you'll be alright.</p>
<p>Pusha,</p>
<p>Here are the Fall 2004 admit rates by campus (thanks to calmom):</p>
<p>Berkeley: Admit Rate Overall: 24.71%</p>
<h1>ELC Student Admit Rate: 61.1%</h1>
<p>Davis: Admit Rate Overall: 54.9%</p>
<h1>ELC Student Admit Rate: 97.8%</h1>
<p>Irvine: Admit Rate Overall: 52.1%</p>
<h1>ELC Student Admit Rate: 95.2%</h1>
<p>UCLA: Admit Rate Overall: 23.0%</p>
<h1>ELC Student Admit Rate: 50.2%</h1>
<p>Riverside: Admit Rate Overall: 73.5%</p>
<h1>ELC Student Admit Rate: 92.0%</h1>
<p>San Diego: Admit Rate Overall: 39.3</p>
<h1>ELC Student Admit Rate: 88.7%</h1>
<p>Santa Barbara: Admit Rate Overall: 53.1%</p>
<h1>ELC Student Admit Rate: 97.2%</h1>
<p>Santa Cruz: Admit Rate Overall: 68.6%</p>
<h1>ELC Student Admit Rate: 98.5%</h1>
<p>If your are designated UC-ELC then your chances of being admitted in to berkley have definitely increased, if not the odds are almost 80% against you.</p>
<p>there is currently a discussion about this on the parent's forum that will hopefully give you some better insight </p>
<p>Intriguing thread.</p>
<p>I would listen and think about the point made concerning the narrow focus of many participants on CollegeConfidential. Minority students should not fall into the misguided notion of "Ivy League at any cost." Like an earlier poster said, most college students, including high achieving ones, attend a public university in their home states. Variety is a wonderful thing. I feel strongly that minority students make a mistake when they are blinded by an obsession with MIT, but won't consider WPI, for example.</p>
<p>One more thing. A lot of middle-class or otherwise high achieving black applicants choose Spelman College (the women at least), a school whose reputation for excellence is not subject to dispute.</p>