Affirmative Action Thread

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<p>"That would be hard to find I conceede."</p>

<p>At least you admitted it. The pundits in the parent cafe refuse to answer that question.</p>

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<p>Hepstar, show us a URM with a 2400 who got into a top college.</p>

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<p>^^
Lol, I like this post even better.</p>

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<p>in case some body doesn't know about affirmative action in the US admission policy here it is</p>

<p>The data from the study represent admissions disadvantage and advantage in terms of SAT points (on the old 1600-point scale):</p>

<p>Blacks: +230
Hispanics: +185
Asians: ?50
Recruited athletes: +200
Legacies (children of alumni): +160 </p>

<p>source: wikipedia <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Wow.. that is not a study i'd go by. It makes too many assumptions.</p>

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<p>So according to this table, the maximum score is a 2990 out of 2400? :D</p>

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<p>Apparently so.</p>

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<p>Boy, it would suck to be rejected w/ a 2990 eh?</p>

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<p>My friend had 10+ relatives go to his ED college. I doubt he only got a 160 point boost for his SAT. Also, SATs arent everything according to adcoms, so what good does a 100 point boost really do?</p>

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<p>The study said after norming for everything else you have a +x boost. I still don't believe in it, but that is what the study asserts.</p>

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<p>Still waiting for the URM with a 2400 who was rejected/deferred/waitlisted to a top college. We can find so many Asians with 2400s and some white kids with 2400s, but why can't we find a URM with a 2400? Also, if SAT scores aren't the most important thing in admissions, why is it hard to believe that a 2400 Asian was rejected by a top college? I will bet you a billion dollars that there are Asians at HYPSM with sub 2400 SATs.</p>

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<p>hard to find a URM with a 2400</p>

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Still waiting for the URM with a 2400 who was rejected/deferred/waitlisted to a top college. We can find so many Asians with 2400s and some white kids with 2400s, but why can't we find a URM with a 2400?

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Yeah, because it's incredibly rare.
<a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/about/news_info/cbsenior/yr2006/national-report.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/about/news_info/cbsenior/yr2006/national-report.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>If you can see that Asians have a mean performance on each portion of the test which is .75-1.5 Black standard deviations above the Black mean. Coupled with the higher standard deviation of Asians the results for high performers are pushed even further in Asians directions.</p>

<p>I wouldn't be surprised if the frequency of 2350+ scores for Asians is twenty times that of Blacks.</p>

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Also, if SAT scores aren't the most important thing in admissions, why is it hard to believe that a 2400 Asian was rejected by a top college? I will bet you a billion dollars that there are Asians at HYPSM with sub 2400 SATs.

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SATs & GPA are the most important thing in college admissions. Simple as that. SATs & GPA are very important within your racial group. A 2400 Asian is still much more likely to get into HYPSM than 2200. A 4.0 is more likely than a 3.0</p>

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<p>Hepstar claims that a URM with perfect stats will get into a college easily, but an Asian with perfect stats will be rejected because of his/her race. I want to find one URM with perfect stats that was accepted. We see a fair amount of perfect scorers who are rejected, but we also see Asians with imperfect scores getting into the same colleges. If race is the reason why Asians and whites with 2400s are not getting into top colleges, then it must be easy to see that a URM with a 2400 will walk right into the admissions office and gain admission with relative ease.</p>

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<p>Statistically speaking, a 2400 URM is quite rare. That's kinda the whole reason they are a URM to begin with...</p>

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<p>I wouldn't make blanket satements, but looking at that data table gave me some insight.</p>

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<p>A 2400 of any race is quite rare. Most may end up being Asian, but that doesn't mean that a URM can get a 2400. There must be some blacks and hispanics with perfect SAT scores.</p>

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<p>"A 2400 of any race is quite rare. Most may end up being Asian, but that doesn't mean that a URM can get a 2400. There must be some blacks and hispanics with perfect SAT scores."</p>

<p>According to CC, there are URMs here with 2300+ scores. If this is indeed true, then I'm sure there is at least 1 2400 URM. </p>

<p>The highest SAT score I have seen from a URM is a 2270 from a half-hispanic/half-asian kid in my class. He is obviously putting down hispanic as his race, so he does qualify as a URM.</p>

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<p>There is at least one 2400 URM on here: Hazhulken, Harvard admit, HS class of 2007.</p>

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<p>Ventaker, I think you mean "A 2400 of any race is quite rare. Most may end up being Asian, but that doesn't mean that a URM can NOT get a 2400. There must be some blacks and hispanics with perfect SAT scores."
And I agree 100%</p>