affirmative action

<p>AdmissionsAddict what if I pull off a 96+ average with those 5 a.p classes next year? Do my chances increase significantly or is Yale still going to be a dream that will never happen?</p>

<p>Bump Bump Bump.</p>

<p>collegehopeful--Use your powers of analysis. If you can pull your overall GPA (not just first semester senior year GPA) up to 96 by the end of first semester, then you have a better chance of being admitted than you do now. If you're overall GPA is still below 94.5, then it's going to be tougher. No one can give you a definitive answer. Every candidate is unique. You might get in with a lower average. Still, your school's scattergrams are the best guide about what numbers you need to get in. Same for your Princeton app and any other. Those numbers don't lie, although they do hide if a person had a hook. People look at scattergrams and focus on the person with the lowest GPA on the chart, forgetting that that person may be the #1 tennis player in the country or something and GPA requirements will be higher for most other people.</p>

<p>Well I can't pully my overall unweighted to gpa to a 96. I am hoping that my first term gpa will be around a 98 (hopefully) which would pull my overall gpa to about a 93. Maybe this improvement will help. If i pull off a similar gpa second term my ave will be 94 ish but there is not enough time to do that unless its for transfer admission.</p>

<p>bump. bump/</p>

<p>Actually, if affirmative action were completely removed, caucasian admissions rates would drop. Why? Because they'd be replaced by more Asians. I'm by no means making that up and am by no means saying that that's absolutely true. I'm merely restating the summary of an extensive study on affirmative action.</p>

<p>I think most of us forgot the point of affirmative action. It's not meant to be permanent, but only a temporary solution for the discrepancies in college students based on race/economic status. I'm saying temporary because once the numbers level off, and they are confident with the number of students applying from each background, AA will probably be eliminated. Besides, I think that the students who truly do benefit from affirmative action are most likely deemed as disadvantaged in some way by the admissions committee. Without AA, the committee might not have considered their disadvantages.</p>

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Actually, if affirmative action were completely removed, caucasian admissions rates would drop. Why? Because they'd be replaced by more Asians. I'm by no means making that up and am by no means saying that that's absolutely true. I'm merely restating the summary of an extensive study on affirmative action.

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<p>That's just not true. Asians are discriminated against, but much of the time is because a lot of stereotypical Asian academic all-stars are applying to top schools, and only so many are attractive to colleges. But you have a point.</p>

<p>I don't think socioeconomic affirmative action helps anyone. It has been proven that minority/low-income GPAs at Ivies are very low in comparison to whites/asians, and whites/asians often take harder courses. Does a poor aspiring black lawyer (that got a serious bump, I understand that many people are qualified) gain anything from attending HYP and feeling incredibly behind because of the rigor? No - this lawyer may not have the Harvard name, but maybe he or she went to NU or something along those lines and got a better education at a more appropriate pace. I think it needs to be questioned whether AA does anything besides provide aesthetics for the very top schools, because many AA beneficiaries fall behind and have issues in the real world.</p>

<p>I think that at this point debating AA at schools we're looking at is pointless. Most distinguished schools want to have a diverse student body which means that AA becomes irrelevant. Schools are going to want students of color in their school so no matter what, even if they're not as "qualified" as other white students, they're going to get in to the school.</p>