<p>It seems the general consensus is that these are the most prestigious major universities. What would be the next six? I say MIT, Columbia, Berkeley, Duke, Dartmouth, Brown???</p>
<p>To keep it simple, let's not draw distinctions between undergrad v. grad.</p>
<p>Don't do it men !!!You gonna create a war here.</p>
<p>The next 15 or so is prolly easy: the rest of the Ivies, Duke, Northwestern, Chicago, Mich, Berkeley, UVA, Wash U, but it gets pretty iffy</p>
<p>lol Brown? Caltech is definitely more prestigious than Brown.</p>
<p>yeah..I've never understood why brown is ranked so high.</p>
<p>well it is an ivy league school afterall</p>
<p>It's not particularly. It's the lowest of the Ivies, and 15th overall, according to USNWR.</p>
<p>what i don't understand is why is it so selective when its ranked lower than schools with the same selectivity</p>
<p>It's selective because people love Brown, especially its open curriculum. Popular schools are more selective because they have more applicants to choose from. Selectivity does not exactly reflect quality, especially when you're dealing with an unusually popular college.</p>
<p>You can see the opposite phenomenon at the University of Chicago. It's a top-quality school, but it loses applicants because of its "where fun goes to die" reputation. Thus, its selectivity is lower than would be expected on the basis of its quality.</p>
<p>"The next 15 or so is prolly easy: the rest of the Ivies, Duke, Northwestern, Chicago, Mich, Berkeley, UVA, Wash U, but it gets pretty iffy"</p>
<p>Oh, I see you grouped Berkeley and duke in the same league yet you continue to urge us to believe that Duke is > than Berkeley over in the other thread...</p>
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<p>You are so. Freakin'. Right.</p>
<p>"The next 15 or so is prolly easy: the rest of the Ivies, Duke, Northwestern, Chicago, Mich, Berkeley, UVA, Wash U, but it gets pretty iffy"</p>
<p>you forgot MIT and Caltech. Plus all of this depends on what you're looking for in a college, no way you go to Harvard if you want to pursue engineering.</p>
<p>Well, I think the full thing should be HYPSWPTNCE, so the next 6 would be Emory, Cornell, NYU, Tufts, UPenn, and WashU.</p>
<p><em>waits for a riot to begin</em></p>
<p>Popcorn anyone??</p>
<p>Brown is more selective than schools ranked above it because USNWR is not the final authority on colleges that everyone should abide by.</p>
<p>Look at US News.* They have all the top colleges there.</p>
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<li>This isn't to say that US News does a good job of ranking the colleges, but rather that it brings together the best ones.</li>
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<p>Vangie: Yeah, Duke is definetely better than Berkeley for undergrads, but the OP said no distinction between grad and undergrad.</p>
<p>So Duke or Berkeley overall, not distinguishing grad or undergrad? lol Well, never mind, there is already a whole 'nother thread on that issue!</p>
<p>Eh..? so you like to know the best schools with combined undergrad and grad ?</p>
<p>Well then?. Here is the list:</p>
<p>WCU:
1) Harvard-Berkeley-Stanford-MIT
2) Caltech-Yale-Princeton-Chicago-Columbia
3) UPenn-Cornell-UMich-Duke-JHU-UVa
4) Other Fine Schools</p>
<p>Berkeley > Yale, Princeton? I don't think a very high % would agree with this, especially in this country. UG student quality at Yale and Princeton is much better and it's not like the overall grad programs at Berkeley (which is really meaningless anyway since you should really examine by specific disciplines that affect you) is really any better that it would compensate overall.</p>