<p>oh definitely, but I was just saying that the Vietnam anti-war movement popularized use of drugs. People definitely were using them before.</p>
<p>And yeah this is kinda off topic haha</p>
<p>There is some kind of disconnection here. Are you claiming that the anti war movement was simply fueled by people on drugs? So you couldn’t be anti war without being on drugs? Do you realize that by 1970 the large MAJORITY of America, including middle America, was AGAINST the war and wanted to withdraw? Do you understand that opposition to the war by the mainstream forced LBJ not to run again in 1968? I find your sweeping stereotypes of the 60s and Vietnam frighteningly ignorant and dangerously subversive to the cause of history.</p>
<p>I am no fan of “moral depravity.” But then again, I am not too crazy about (sleep-inducing and long-winded) self-righteous indignation either.</p>
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<p>no I’m not claiming that at all!</p>
<p>Ok I’ll stop talking and maybe research my facts before posting 
It’s been a while since AP US History</p>
<p>I’m not quite sure why drinking too much and vomiting on the floor is considered fun.</p>
<p>“There was a time when colleges were places of integrity and personal responsibility.”</p>
<p>To say that there was a time when college students weren’t as immoral or as destructive as they are today is categorically untrue. Look at the illegal wet parties in the dorms at Harvard in the 20s, the overt sex with prostitutes in the 1800s, or the destruction of local pubs in Oxford in the 1200s. Immorality and depravity have been a staple of college life since its inception. College kids are no more immoral today than they were 50 or 1800 yeras ago - their charades, however, are much more widely publicized.</p>
<p>I only meant I think “it happens everyday” is an exaggeration. Sure some kids get drunk and vomit everyday, sure there may be at least one kid SOMEWHERE everyday, defecating in a urinal, having sex in public, breaking a bathroom sink in the process, but I don’t believe three kids at UC Santa Cruz get arrested every day on drug charges, or that everyday, someone is claiming $47,000.00 in damages on each college campus. These two reports seem above and beyond the usual, and certainly above and beyond my experience in college, but then I went to an HBCU…</p>
<p>God I wish I was at that party.</p>
<p>I don’t understand what “morality” has anything to do with all this.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this has been more about moralizing than “morality.”</p>
<p>If you don’t want to engage in this type of behavior, don’t. If you feel like you can’t help yourself, may I recommend attending a place such as Liberty University where such behavior is prohibited. Just don’t force your own morals on others.</p>
<p>Better be kind to people in frats/sororities…chances are that you’ll work for a former “party animal” one day. The overwhelming majority of Fortune 500 executives and CEOs went Greek in college.</p>
<p>“The overwhelming majority of Fortune 500 executives and CEOs went Greek in college.”</p>
<p>Well that explains a lot ;)</p>
<p>“If you don’t want to engage in this type of behavior, don’t”</p>
<p>“and tried to tear off the clothes of a female bartender,”</p>
<p>I am pretty sure the bartender didn’t want to engage in this type of behavior and tried not to.</p>
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<p>Of course there are outliers, and their behavior is reprehensible. However, the vast majority of people at parties behave fine, given the circumstances. Huge parties happen every single night at colleges across the country, and yet things like this are rare enough that they make the news.</p>
<p>I thought “this type of behavior” was a reference to what was in the OP.</p>
<p>Something like this, in public, is of course quite rare and does make the news. A range of other issues, from vandalism to date rape, make the news mainly as statistics, or policy debates, or just make the local news.</p>
<p>“yet things like this are rare enough that they make the news.”</p>
<p>Please tell me defacating in urinals is rare…and getting arrested on drug charges…I’m thinking the arrests are for intent to distribute…does that really happen to three UC Santa Cruz students a day? How about three UC students a day?</p>
<p>I would really like if people would stop throwing greek life under a boat.</p>
<p>I’m currently greek and in college, and get this…I don’t drink at all.</p>
<p>I get good grades, do an excessive amount of community service, and hold multiple leadership positions, and am in a long term relationship.</p>
<p>And wait…I pay my own way through school…</p>
<p>There will always be those around making idiots of themselves, and yes there are some idiots in my Greek Letter Organization, however most of us are extremely responsible.</p>
<p>The reason Greeks are so easily thrown under a bus is because they are a prominent social group, meaning that they are easily grouped together and a few individuals are tied to a large college population.</p>
<p>Greeks are not all rich, drunkards/druggies, worth nothings, just because these girls were doesn’t connect to everyone else.</p>
<p>its kind of sad to see that defecating in urinals has now taken the place of stuffing yourself into a phone booth or a Volkswagon as a fraternity/sorority prank…</p>
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<p>It is. I’ve been to tons and tons of parties (Greek and non-Greek) and have never seen it. Do you see it often in your day-to-day encounters?</p>
<p>"Do you see it often in your day-to-day encounters? "</p>
<p>Only when I’m working in prisons and long term mental institutions.</p>
<p>BTW, I’m “greek”, but that’s not how we roll.</p>