<p>This sentence can be found in a Time magazine article from a couple of weeks ago. It implies that whites set the bar in education no matter what. "All ethnic groups in the US do more poorly than Asians on standardized tests" would be more appropriate wording. Why should whites set the standard even when they aren't the best? People talk about the "black-white gap" in education, but in this case, the gap should be called "asian-nonasian". Whites have some catching up to do.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, White is Right in America. If Blacks and Hispanics score low, then they're stupid and unmotivated. If Asians (or Jews, in the past) do too well, then they're too studious and nerdy. </p>
<p>But I think the headline is appropriate because in a country like America, the Whites do set the standard because they're the most populous and socially mobile group. The inherent fairness or unfairness of the system can be measured by comparing a group's standing in relation to the Whites.</p>
<p>Somebody has to be last. Whats the big deal?</p>
<p>It would be misleading to talk about the Asian-non-Asian gap because blacks are such poor performers that they will skew the results. The largest gap would be the Asian-black gap. There is a small but not astonishing Asian-white gap.</p>
<p>Plus, there are more Whites which obviously drop the White average way down. Correct me if I am wrong, but most of the Asians who come to America are the more focused and successful ones.</p>
<p>What issue was that? I want to read that again.</p>
<p>Perhaps they worded it like that because 65% of this country is White? It seems pretty obvious why they worded it like they did.</p>
<p>Whites think that minorities are inferior including Asian.
To explain why Asians do better on tests,they argue that Asian just work harder,not smarter.</p>
<p>what a ridiculous comment to make. political correctness in america gone wrong, yet again.</p>
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Whites think that minorities are inferior including Asian.
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Actually, that might be the case. However, I tend to think that all ethnic groups view their's as superior.
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To explain why Asians do better on tests,they argue that Asian just work harder,not smarter.
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Well, how does one "work smarter" for a test. Wouldn't that just mean more intelligence? And then once that question is asked...well, one has to ask about 50 more un-PC questions.</p>
<p>I'm Asian, but I agree 100% with dank08. There is no evidence that the average zhou in China would perform above the average Joe in America. Probably 90% of all Chinese students I know have a parent who has a doctorate degree.</p>
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Probably 90% of all Chinese students I know have a parent who has a doctorate degree.
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Why?Most parents don't have doctorate degree.Where did you meet them?
And what if someone has a parent with a doctorate degree?</p>
<p>Well, that is the case in Oklahoma. I would understand why some less educated immigrants want to go somewhere else because of the lack of opportunities here.</p>
<p>Parents who have doctorate degrees are more likely to emphasize education in the household. They got themselves to that position and probably would love to see their child earn as much success, if not more, especially in America, where there are more opportunities.</p>
<p>That is the feeling I get from all my Chinese friends and their families. I think parents play a very huge role in making the stereotype that Asians excel at academics.</p>
<p>The reason why Asians score higher is irrevelant. The point is that they have set a standard. Throughout history, the majority in any given country hasn't always been considered the best: i.e., the Indian caste system. Majority doesn't always = standard.</p>
<p>Everyone who is complaining should, well get over it. There are much worse things going on in the USA and the world that should be complained about over this. So what if Times said that, it does not matter. </p>
<p>I am not "white" so don't give me that crap about how I'm just saying that because I am not a minority.</p>
<p>Yeah, this is taken out of context so nobody can really comment on how racist the statement is.</p>
<p>The article was probably comparing whites to another group of people, right? That's why they worded it that way. </p>
<p>I actually find the original comment, as well as some other ones made on here, more racist. "Why should whites set the standard even when they aren't the best?" And someone implied that Asians are naturally smarter. If a white person tried to use that as an excuse the same person making that comment would probably call it stereotyping and label the person as a racist. </p>
<p>Racism needs to be fought, yeah, but people have to understand that racism isn't just a white thing. I'm being defensive here, and you can bet that people everywhere would be. That's what perpetuates racism, comments like the ones you find in here.</p>
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I actually find the original comment, as well as some other ones made on here, more racist. "Why should whites set the standard even when they aren't the best?" And someone implied that Asians are naturally smarter.
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I don't think anyone was implying that Asians are naturally smarter. They were questioning the wording of the article title. The title reads "All minorities, with the exception of Asians, do poorer than whites on SATs." Perhaps a better, more succint title would have been "All other racial groups, including whites, do poorer than Asians on the SATs." But as another poster pointed out, this country is majority white, so of course the title would be white-focused. So yeah, I don't think anyone was trying to imply that Asian were naturally smarter. I think they were just saying that in this case, Asians set the standard.</p>
<p>"Whites think that minorities are inferior including Asian.
To explain why Asians do better on tests,they argue that Asian just work harder,not smarter." -Jason1117</p>
<p>That sounds like someone implying asians are naturally smarter to me. Not a strong argument, considering you have to fill in some missing words to have the sentence make sense, but it's still an obvious insinuation.</p>
<p>But I still don't think he was implying that Asians are naturally smarter, he was just stating the truth. He never said Asians were smarter, he just said what a white argument against Asian "smartness" is. I have heard many white peers claim that Asians score better because they work harder. However, I have rarely heard any of my white peers say that Asians score better because they are naturally smarter, and I think that this is an argument that you will rarely hear. In the same vein, I have heard many of my same white peers tell me that I am an exception in the black race because test scores usually prove that blacks are not as smart as whites. Now, these white kids could have said "blacks don't work as hard as whites" but they instead chose to say that blacks were naturally dumber. I think these two examples clearly show what Jason was trying to say, whites will always attempt to make themselves the standard to which all things are compared. In doing so, they will play up the work ethic of one racial group, but down play the work ethic of another, all to achieve the same ends.</p>
<p>But I guess it all really comes down to a simple difference of interpretation.</p>
<p>Apparently not many realize the perpetuation of racism is due to misunderstanding and the inability for some to talk about things without getting angry. First try to understand someone's point and then state your position, not why their position is wrong. This isn't directed at anyone particularly, it's just my problem with discussing race related issues period. </p>
<p>However , I am a hypocrite , I am also bothered when people get off of the original post (exhibit A, this post)</p>