<p>Maybe the things you're hearing aren't always accurate.</p>
<p>I am not getting upset about anything, and just trying to prove my point by the fact that I did not get into Cornell. Scores happen to matter much less for graduate school than undergraduate. A 27 happens to be pretty low for elite colleges. Congratulations on being a senior- that doesn't qualify you any more than me on the subject of undergrad admissions. I did research as well, but I'm not sure why you bragging about yourself brings us any closer to his chances. I am merely stating that elite college admissions is very difficult.</p>
<p>OK, so no city schools. That gets rid of a lot of options. I think Cornell treats their undergrads well, but it is hard to graduate from. You'd have to be ready to work hard if you went there. That leaves Michigan and Berkeley. Berkeley is near a city, is that OK? Of the ones I suggested earlier, the not liking city thing cuts out Carnegie Mellon and Case Western, leaving UCLA (near a city), Wisconsin, Penn State, Rochester, and Syracuse. Those were not on the top 10 math list, but I think they are all pretty good for that. Any other requirements for schools other than no city, such as size?</p>
<p>I agree with a lot of what you said. I am not saying that he will completely get into MIT...I am saying that he has a chance. He needs to work hard, but he has a chance. Like I said before, IF he DOES improve his scores AND his gpa. Important... he will not have a standing chance if he does NOT improve his scores or gpa. Again IF and only IF.</p>
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I want to know where I am now. Is it that hard of a question. I know that right now I have no chance for MIT. I know I can't get into harvard. I want to know if I have a chance at a top 10 school in math, a decent chance, not a reach.
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<p>I think this is a very hard question. None of us has a magical answer for you. What would it help you to be told, no, you do not have a decent chance at a top ten math school? Would you believe that if some random person on a messageboard told you that? Perhaps you're the student that some admission committee member would put their faith in and stick up for, and admit despite your low non-math scores. Would you miss out on that chance because of following the advice of someone who doesn't know you? Do your best, work hard, target your problem areas, apply at your reaches but be sure you have some very likelies in the mix.</p>
<p>I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned, my comp is really slow and there is no way i can get through the 5 pages.. </p>
<p>i'm also going into pure math, and you're probably good as long as you have good AMC12 and AIME scores. if you have USAMO qualifications, even better.</p>
<p>If your school doesn't offer them, be sure to mention in your application that your school doesn't offer AMC because not mentioning it could seriously hurt your chances.</p>
<p>But gradewise, it seems good.. :) Good luck with your application!</p>
<p>Who said I don't like big cities. I'm getting confused. Did I post that? I don't ever remember posting that. And MOmOFour, you think I have no chance at a top 10 school. Why is that. I can tell you that I can get accepted at Michigan, and maybe 1 or 2 others. I know michigan will take me because to them, I stand out. They are not as tough to get into as the other schools on the top 10. Not even close. If people here are telling me that I have a chance at MIT, then I know I can get into michigan.</p>
<p>I messed up there. You wrote: "i visited chicago a while ago. It was nice, but not my kind of school. Did not like the city." Now I see you meant Chicago in particular, I thought you meant being in the city in general.</p>
<p>Anyway, I don't think that Michigan is such a sure bet at all. Don't be so confident. I think the people who think you can get in MIT are completely wrong. Michigan is still tough to get into- don't underestimate them. Plus, they focus more on grades and scores than private schools, and where care less about your achievements in math. I really think you need to aim lower...and drop the attitude/cockiness.</p>
<p>Everybody with a passion like yours has a chance at MIT. Some people's chances are bigger. A lot bigger. And some people's chances are too small to actually get them in. </p>
<p>Shoot for the stars, apply, but don't set yourself up for a huge disappointment by expecting the best. Applying to MIT would be a whimsical journey, not a sure ticket in. Be sure to think realistically and apply to a wide spectrum of schools (not a large quantity, mind you, just a wide spectrum), including some at which you have a good chance of getting in. These would include some lower-tier schools, as well.</p>
<p>I think the people who say this kid has a good chance at MIT are raising his hopes too high. NO one has a "good" chance, per se, because MIT is so hard to get into that after a certain level, it's all a big gamble.</p>
<p>chocolateluvr88, I am not acting cocky right now. By doing this, I find out my chances, if people say I have good chances, then I know I can get accepted to lower schools. I am not doing this because I have an attitude problem. MIT is hard to get into and I am not expecting to get into their right now. You answered the real question which is if I can get into a top 10 school. THat is the real question. Somebody posted something about MIT and now thats all what people talk about. I don't care where I go because all I want to do is do a math major and then go to medical school. I know it sounds weird, but math is the thing I am best at for pulling a high gpa in. That is mainly why I am taking advanced courses. I also will take bio, physics, and english courses to help me for the mcat. I don't want to continue with math, I just want it to pull a high gpa.</p>
<p>Calc BC as a freshman? Damn, I'm in Calc AB as a senior. But that's because that's the highest my high school goes and there's no community college here.</p>
<p>a lot of people here do that. Some are even more advanced. But, they don't continue. Most stop after calc bc or calc 3.</p>
<p>Well. first i wanna respond to happypoo. </p>
<p>Just cause ur passionate doesn't mean u have a chance. It's all about the complete package.</p>
<p>For example, say i wanted to major in PE (assuming such a thing exists), then if i do crap in all my classes and get striaght A's for four years in physical education because i have a passion for it...doesn't mean i have a chance. Granted, maybe the adcoms will think i'm a freak and let me in for that sole reason. (highly unlikely) </p>
<p>Now to numberone:</p>
<p>in 8th grade i took geometry. yay. lots of people do that. entering high school i did an accelerated 2-year math program which means i covered alg2, trig, math analysis, calc ab, and calc bc in 2 years and got a 5 on the bc test. So, am i advanced in math? I'd say so. finishing 5 years of math in 2 is pretty good i guess. But college apps are about the WHOLE package. You can't just do well in one specific lil blurb and think that that will get you into college. That said, i don't think its essential that you continue such an extensive math program. Rather, work on the complete package and bring up your other grades/scores.</p>
<p>Hope that helped. Didn't mean to sound patronizing or obnoxious or all that other gunk...juss tryin to help</p>
<p>last thing: don't take it for granted that you'll get into Michigan. Yes, it might not be as hard to get into as other top schools, but still...it's still a top school. as in you'll be competing against a whoooooooole buncha smartass kids in america for the spot. To give you an idea of what it takes to make it to a top school... here's the link to my "what are my chances" thing.
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=132935%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=132935</a> </p>
<p>i got rejected ED from stanford. Again, it's about the whole package. If you can't top that then do more stuff (i haven't been following the whole thread, but i don't think ur a senior, are you?). Again, not trying to sound like "look at me!" but just showing you a real-life example.</p>
<p>i am actually a junior.</p>
<p>bump ...................</p>
<p>it seems that nobody else is responding.</p>
<p>It seems, numberone, that as it stands, your composite ACT of 27 is on the low end of the U of M 25-75 range. Also, 90% of admitted students at Michigan were in the top 10% of their class.</p>
<p>Improve your verbal scores. I could list colleges that you'd have strong shots at right now: Case Western, Pepperdine, U Wisconsin...</p>
<p>You also need to chill. Try using question marks when needed. Commas and periods help as well.</p>
<p>Good suggestions SonataX, those 3 schools would all be good matches.</p>
<p>Numberone:</p>
<p>Everyone has told you your English is important and all assume it will reach a sufficient level for tests (SAT, TOEFL). But...</p>
<p>Most people agree you won't get in any of the top ten based on the information you have given.
Truly no-one is a shoe-in for any of the top ten schools. Ask Brian Mcdermott who built the nuclear fusion experiment in his basement but didn't get into MIT.</p>
<p>For instance MIT has a significant humanities requirement to graduate - you have shown us nothing.</p>
<p>UMich relies on ACTS - you are at the low-end - and what is your unweighted GPA?</p>
<p>If you only want to graduate from somewhere with a high GPA, then find a state school that gives easy grades and apply to medical school after that why waste an undergraduate education.</p>
<p>If you really wanted to concentrate on Math I would have suggested Camnridge University, UK.</p>
<p>Would anyone here put Mcgill in the top 10 for math. They are not ranked because the ranking does not include canadian schools. So, would anyone think they deserve a spot in the top 10.</p>
<p>no. Also, I don't think that you'd get into McGill, because, as far as I know, Canadian Universities place more emphasis on scores/GPA.</p>
<p>(maybe I'm just biased, b/c I saw McGill, and hated it. Hated montreal as a city, but that's just me)</p>