<p>In what field are you planning to become an engineer? 'Cause if it's chemistry, can you take my Chem AP on tuesday?</p>
<p>And my Chem SAT II in June while you're at it.</p>
<p>TI calculators are horrible and plagued my tons of errors, get a HP or Casio. </p>
<p>an hp 50G will beat the crap out of the ti-89T</p>
<p>There is just a consensus that TI calculators are good, this is pretty much because teachers push them in the lower grades. teachers push them because TI has many contracts with elementary through hs schools. Many times calculators are given for free in return that teachers must only allow Ti calculators in class. if you plan to be a engineer or surveyor you really will want a HP. No real engineers really use Ti's. They are foolish and have to many errors like I mentioned before. Plus the Hp 50G has so much more functionality and in general has a much faster processor and expandable memeory as well as many other features.</p>
<p>Simply put my hp 50G can calculate 9999! and be dead on acurate. The ti-89 ti can only calculate 449!</p>
<p>When are you going to need to calculate 9999! ?</p>
<p>you probably wont, but I just said this to show the power of the hp. it rapes the ti-89t and makes it bleed.</p>
<p>^^ Sounds pretty ruthless to me.</p>
<p>I feel so much nerdier after reading through this thread.</p>
<p>The hp 50G looks pretty freaking sweet though. Googled up a pic of it, and man....shoot, my nerdiness is showing.</p>
<p>I think the difference between a TI-89 and TI-83+ might be worth .1-.2 GPA points upon graduation. Yes, it pays off that much. This is on the supposition that you know how to use it.</p>
<p>l0l??? hp calculators and the like a realllllly weird and hard to use.</p>
<p>no they are just not dumbed down, Ti calculators are made for people who are not technically savy. They are made for ease of use, and by getting the ease of use you loose power and functionality.</p>
<p>yes the Hp calculators are much more complex but if you are going to need a calculator like the ti-89 then well you are a little bit more complex than the average person and ya don't need to be babied. believe me I have used a fair share of Ti calculators, I used em all throughout school, until I got to my engineering curriculum and noticed I was getting a wrong answer with logs, I started to do some research, I saw just how many errors the ti-calculators are prone to, I was astonished. Then I started to delve deeper into the calculator underground, such as modifications and such, usually mostly on the newsgroup comp.sys.hp48 and I saw how many true engineers use Hp calculators, then I noticed when I was at a internship that all the engineers had hps on there desks. so I went out and got one and I couldn't be happier, best thing I have bought in a while.</p>
<p>LOOL</p>
<p>No way man. I use my 89 literally every day for all my engineering classes and have yet to find and error or anything. I also have never seen anyone using anything beside TI calculators here.</p>
<p>I too went on internship and saw no such thing. I would guess the only place you would is if you worked for HP.</p>
<p>Since when does ease of use imply lack of functionality. I think a simple UI can be very powerful.</p>
<p>your only fooling yourself, maybe your not good enough to see the errors. </p>
<p>I am just trying to help people, if you want to buy a lesser product then by all means go and buy it, but you will be at the disadvantage. I don't work for hp so what you buy doesn't have any benefits to me. so by all means go buy a ti.</p>
<p>btw my internship was at atto, fti and I just started at ricoh, to be honest I have only seen other interns like myself using ti's, all the real engineers either used hp's or there laptop's.</p>
<p>Zorz, TI is the perfect calculator for the purposes of college courses. So what if it's easy to use, to me, that's a plus. It allows you to focus on the actual problems rather than trying to figure out how to you use you $100+ calculator. BTW, collegeguy goes to MIT, so if the TI is good enough to handle his coursework, then it's a pretty good calculator.</p>
<p>do you NEEED a TI-89 in high school if you're going as far as.....IB Higher Level? is a tI84 plus ok?</p>
<p>I used TI-84+ for IB math and it was fine. I forget the test, but isn't there a section where you can't use a calculator? But anyways, I didn't get the 89 until college.</p>
<p>For high school? Maybe not (though it would probably help in calculus ;))</p>
<p>Very useful for college though. So if you're going to keep your calculator for that, then you might want to spring for the 89.</p>
<p>I am still using the same calculator I bought in high school :p</p>
<p>Zorz, post the link citing the errors. I want to see what egregious errors everyone else seems to be missing...</p>
<p>why would I care if he goes to MIT, that doesn't mean I consider him smarter or that he is smarter, if anything I would just consider him a less practical scientist and engineer who can read a good book.</p>
<p>Like I said before I have nothing to prove and I will show the list as you requested later. If you want to use a ti then by all means go for it. your only putting me at an advantage. I thought i would try to help and give some insight, but take it as ya want.</p>
<p>l0l, sounds like a troll there. How are we putting you at an advantage? Oh noooooO!</p>
<p>I mentioned he goes to MIT not so that I can value his opinion over yours, but because it is widely accepted that MIT has a very difficult coursework. So if collegeguy says his TI is able to do the job with the work he has to do, then it must be a pretty good calculator.</p>
<p>I've looked through a bug list, and a lot appear to be obscure errors that one would not ordinarily encounter.</p>
<p>However I would find it hard to believe that any calculator is without bugs or errors.</p>
<p>Most of them were failed to evaluate bugs or bugs which return answers that were clearly wrong. I am not arguing that the TI-89 or other TI calculators are without bugs, but rather that they are still very useful tools. In retrospect, I would still get the TI-89 in a heartbeat.</p>