Am I considered "URM" ?

[vonlost]

<p>Here’s one example:

Most applicants compete not with the whole applicant pool but within specific categories, where the applicant-to-available-space ratio may be more, or less, favorable than in the pool at large. Categories can exist for athletics, ethnic diversity, international citizenship, institutional legacy and loyalty, musical and artistic needs, component schools or special academic programs, and in some cases, even gender. Students in the selected categories, which vary from institution to institution, have a “hook” because they help meet institutional needs.

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<p>[Admissions</a> Messages vs. Admissions Realities](<a href=“http://www.reed.edu/apply/news_and_articles/admission_messages.html]Admissions”>http://www.reed.edu/apply/news_and_articles/admission_messages.html)</p>

<p>I suppose we can’t verify it; we can choose to believe it, or not. ;)</p>

[b_r_um]

<p>Thanks! I just have a habit of mistrusting random strangers on the internet.</p>

[b_r_um]

<p>By the way, I think we all agree that being international is a HUGE disadvantage if you need financial aid. I am pointing this out because GastonBruna has inquired about financial aid in the past.</p>

[silverturtle]

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I think we all agree that being international is a HUGE disadvantage if you need financial aid.

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<p>Unless the school is need-blind for internationals.</p>

[b_r_um]

<p>

Unless the school is need-blind for internationals.

In which case it will have so many international applicants that the odds are against you as well.</p>

[silverturtle]

<p>^ That is a good point, but I don’t think that the resultant increase would fully compensate.</p>

[b_r_um]

<p>I am not sure I understand what you mean. Increase (of applicants)? Compensate for what?</p>

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[silverturtle]

<p>

I am not sure I understand what you mean. Increase (of applicants)? Compensate for what?

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<p>I don’t think that the increase in international applicants that results from a school’s not considering need in admissions would negate the advantage afforded to a needy student.</p>

[b_r_um]

<p>Maybe. But the international admission rates at the top schools are so much lower than the domestic admission rates that I am pretty sure the international status is a huge disadvantage by itself.</p>

<p>It does seem that needy international students are always at a disadvantage compared to needy domestic students, one way or another.</p>

[silverturtle]

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But the international admission rates at the top schools are so much lower than the domestic admission rates that I am pretty sure the international status is a huge disadvantage by itself.

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<p>Yes, I agree.</p>

[vonlost]

<p>Here is some international aid data from the one school I know about (I can’t find similar domestic data):

… Since our funds are limited, we can only offer financial aid to approximately 20 to 25 international students each year. In a typical year, 150 to 200 qualified international freshman and transfer applicants compete for these few awards. …

[Reed</a> College | Admission | Reed College Admission Office](<a href=“http://www.reed.edu/apply/applying_to_reed/international.html#financialaid]Reed”>http://www.reed.edu/apply/applying_to_reed/international.html#financialaid)</p>

[bruno123]

<p>It doesn’t make any sense IMHO to consider certain foreign-born “Hispanics”, for example an upper middle-class white Argentinean, Chilean or Brazilian, as an “under-represented minority” for the purpose of US college admission. The URM criterion should only apply to domestic applicants (including immigrants/permanent residents) and not to international students, most of whom, especially in Latin America, tend to come from wealthy families.</p>