Am I correct about this? (hardest colleges to get in)

  1. HYPMS + Cal-Tech

  2. Penn, Columbia

  3. Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth

  4. Duke, Chicago U

Am I right in this?

(i’m expecting critisism for my attitude of ranking the uni. of difficulty to get in)

<p>uchicago has something like 40 percent acceptance rate....</p>

<p>this is do to the fact that it is not very well known and only about a quarter of accepted students matriculate.</p>

<p>the college is my top choice but i dont think their numbers are anywhere near comparable to dukes... this does not mean their quality of education is less than dukes though</p>

<p>also why do you care and why does it matter. there have been several threads on this type of hairsplitting in the past</p>

<p>Yeah, that is really pretty hair splitting :). I'd rank some of the more prestigious LACs like Amherst above Duke/UChicago.</p>

<p>I'd rank them around here</p>

<p>1: HYPMS + Caltech
2: Amherst, Pomona, Columbia, Duke
3: Georgetown, Dartmouth, UPenn
4: Swarthmore, Rice, Berkeley, Brown
5: UVa, Wash U, N'western, UCLA</p>

<p>amherst accepts about a third of their applicants last year
i think dartmouth is 2nd at least b/c it is reallllllllly tough to get into</p>

<p>Duke isnt that hard...last year we had 5 get in, none broke 1400 and none were athletic recruits</p>

<p>Duke i would say is on the level of Rice</p>

<p>Flip Dartmouth and Penn in the OP's list and I would say it's about right. The only reason UChicago has such a high acceptance rate is because its applicant pool is extremely self-selective.</p>

<p>shrek-I could say the same thing about Columbia for my school. Different schools take different kinds of applicants from different school/geographic regions. I wouldn't base your opinion on how hard it is to get into a school based on anecdotal evidence. For example, there was a girl from my class who got into yale with a C- first semester calc and a 1390 SAT score (not an athlete or legacy)...weird stuff happens. Anyway, I would group the schools like this, not that it should influence anyone's decision on where to go (keep in mind all of these schools are extremely competitive):</p>

<p>Harvard/Yale/Stanford
Princeton/MIT/Caltech
Wharton
Duke/Dartmouth/Brown/Penn/Columbia
Cornell/UChicago/Georgetown/Rice/Northwestern</p>

<p>This is for the average, very well-rounded and academically accomplished applicant, since each school values different qualities in admission. Also keep in mind that the nature of college admissions is such that there will be plenty of people at Yale who didn't get into Princeton; students at MIT who didn't get into Wharton; kids at Brown who didn't get into Rice, or even those at Stanford who didn't get into Brown...</p>

<p>I know the Princeton Review has ranked the top 5 Toughest Colleges to Enter in the following order:</p>

<ol>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
</ol>

<p>The ranking criteria used by PR is as follows:
Admissions Selectivity Rating
Academic Rating </p>

<p>Admissions Selectivity Rating
This rating measures how competitive admissions are at the school. This rating is determined by several institutionally-reported factors, including: the class rank, average standardized test scores, and average high school GPA of entering freshmen; the percentage of students who hail from out-of-state; and the percentage of applicants accepted. By incorporating all these factors, our Admissions Selectivity Rating adjusts for "self-selecting" applicant pools. University of Chicago, for example, has a very high rating, even though it admits a surprisingly large proportion of its applicants. Chicago's applicant pool is self-selecting; that is, nearly all the school's applicants are exceptional students. This rating is given on a scale of 60-99. Please note that if a school has an Admissions Selectivity Rating of 60*, it means</p>

<p>incollege's ranking looks about right.</p>

<p>US News does it too (national universities, so schools like Juilliard are not included)</p>

<p>Selectivity rank:
1. Yale
2. MIT
3. Princeton
4. Caltech
5. Harvard
6. Stanford
7. UPenn
8. Duke
9. WashU
10. Brown</p>

<p>Acceptance rank:
1. Harvard
2. Princeton
3. Columbia
4. Yale
5. Stanford
6. Brown
7. MIT
8. Caltech
9. Dartmouth
10. WashU</p>