Am I done for??

<p>URM here :D</p>

<p>Good for good4college! Good luck.</p>

<p>I was responding to the OP, who I hope is also a member of a preferred class…</p>

<p>oh ok. that statement gave me hope.</p>

<p>ok. thank you all so much for your input, it is very much appreciated. i am super disappointed, and after reading many many posts on people who’ve gotten 750’s and above on subject test i knew the moment i saw the scores that the ice did get alot thinner. i am still holding on to hopes that my EC’s, rank, and gpa will make up for it, but the already thin chances did get alot slimmer, and ive already starting heavily researching other schools.
thanks again for your input everyone : ) and good luck!!</p>

<p>oh, and pbr, im sure this seems like a stupid question but what “classes” do you mean? what is development or URM status??
thank you!</p>

<p>AshtonConner - URM means under represented minority. I wish you the best of luck with everything; out of curiosity, what other schools are you considering now?</p>

<p>ok, thanks : ) i live in az so im considering a few in-state schools, and im looking at re-doing tests for regular decision. im applying to a ton of schools just to see the best i can get</p>

<p>arizona state
university of arizona
new york university
brown
yale
rice
ucla
stanford
columbia</p>

<p>i realize most of those are “dreamin big” at this point but its worth a shot</p>

<p>A “development admit” is an applicant whose family (typically parents or grandparents) give piles of money to the university on a regular basis. For example, two of the three Stanford admits in my younger son’s class come from families whose foundations regularly donate high five-figure/low six-figure amounts to Stanford University on an annual basis.</p>

<p>@Ashton… it may be a dream, but it’s worth a shot. You never know what will happen. Something in your application might strike them, a leadership quality, an EC, your essay. you can never give up hope!! In the end, you will end up where you need to be :)</p>

<p>OP, your chances are very near zero. I would advise a much more realistic college list with Rice as your biggest reach.</p>

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<p>Unfortunately, none of these activities are unique or accomplished for applicants to top schools. Research and community service are application standards.</p>

<p>Also, keep in mind that holistic admissions don’t mean that adcoms overlook statistical flaws but that they take soft factors into consideration alongside test scores and grades.</p>

<p>@glasses… I’m sorry, but do you mind specifying what exactly you mean by “soft factors.” Also, realistically, imagine someone, i.e. the OP, has incredible grades, an amazing essay, superb recs, great EC, first gen student, and an awesome interview… but he still has those respective scores - ACT of 29 and the 590 or so on those Subject Tests that he took. Would this “modified” OP stand a chance ED at CU?</p>

<p>I realize that this is kind of a silly question, but I’d like to get an idea and I’m sure others would like to hear</p>

<p>you might be done for at columbia, but youre not done for, i assure you. there are so many great schools out there. fill out your regular decision applications, because you never know. i know kids who have gotten 2400’s, concert violinists, school presidents, etc, who applied early to a top school, and they are ALL still filling out their regular decision apps. why? because you NEVER know.
this thread itself is sort of pointless though. as a direct answer to your question: your scores are low for columbia, but that doesnt mean you have no chance.</p>

<p>doctor, those extra qualifications do indeed greater the 'modified op’s chances, but there are people who have all of those amazing subjective aspects to their applications while ALSO having amaaazing grades. just my .02</p>

<p>doctorje24-thank you : ) it definately is “dreamin big,” but it was worth a shot. </p>

<p>jelecrois-yeah, it does seem like these “chance me” things are pointless. ive been reading alot on people who get rejected, amazing applicants who get 5’s on all their AP’s and actually have done volunteer work in other countries, and it does definately seem like you never know. and looking at these applicants, i honestly dont deserve to get in. someone with my same EC’s and better grades would most certainly have a better chance, as you said, and that definately makes sense. thank you : )</p>

<p>Jelecrois - You raise a valid point… it’s really a tough system to comprehend, like you said there are people with 2400’s and all these EC’s that ultimately get rejected. Who really knows…</p>

<p>Ashton: it was definitely worth a shot, and i’m sure wherever you were meant to go will be very lucky to have you there. Take care and be sure to send me a PM when you hear from your schools! By the way, when you look at people here on this forum, their scores are really good, but don’t despair - a 29 is still a very good score. It’s easy to lose perspective when you’re just observing this microcosm of REALLY smart kids.</p>