<p>I lived in Us for past 4 years but I dont have a greencard, does it make me an international student?</p>
<p>what kind of visa do you have?</p>
<p>i have lived in US for 11 years.. i have H4 visa so i'm still international</p>
<p>h4 same here, i guess i am international than. However I knew somebody who had the same situation as mine(but in different state) and they weren't considered an international student. I think it might have to do with the fact if you are considered are resident or not in your state(I was in the one before I moved).</p>
<p>There are a few different issues to consider:</p>
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<li>Do you qualify for in-state tuition? Depends on the state.</li>
<li>Do you qualify for federal financial aid? No.</li>
<li>Do you qualify for institutional financial aid? Depends on the college.</li>
<li>Do you need evidence of your ability to speak English? Probably not.</li>
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There are a few different issues to consider:</p>
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<li>Do you qualify for in-state tuition? Depends on the state. when i moved here it was a no, so i guess i am internation for my public university</li>
<li>Do you qualify for federal financial aid? No. true</li>
<li>Do you qualify for institutional financial aid? Depends on the college.most top tiers chools probably will count me as non-internation student?, so i am guessing i am safe for my reaches/matches **</li>
<li>Do you need evidence of your ability to speak English? Probably not. i can speak english**
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also how do you quote on these boards?</li>
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<p>In-state tuition: This is something that you do have to check with each and every public-type college/university/community college. USUALLY there will be one policy for the entire state, but SOMETIMES different institutions follow different policies. Sometimes different divisions within one instituition might follow different policies. </p>
<p>Evidence of English language proficiency: Each instituition has its own way of determining if you are proficient enough. You will have to check this out with each and every single one of them. Some will waive the TOEFL (or other placement test) if you have a given score on the ACT/SAT. Some will waive the TOEFL (or other placement test) if you have graduated from an English-language secondary school. Others will require proof of formal education in English-language schools for X number of years. </p>
<p>Institutional financial aid: You have to ask each of them about this one too. Some won't cough up a cent for international students. Some will cough up plenty for an international student that they really like. The question that only you and your family can answer is just how much financial aid you need in order to attend the colleges/universities that admit you.</p>
<p>As a US-based international student, you do have the advantage of a HS transcript that the admissions offices can understand. But that's about it.</p>
<p>International status does not include:</p>
<p>Those who have applied for U.S. permanent residency and anticipate it will be granted before enrollment at State U, is what it states for my university. </p>
<p>Since my parents are applying for greencard(currently a Junior) can I be considered a resident(or is that impossible by the time I apply, and will be considered a resident in better schools?)</p>
<p>here is what it says about internation students: Apply as an international applicant if you will need a visa to study in the U.S. or you are already in the U.S. under an F, B, H, J, L, or M visa.</p>
<p>Also will I be penalized if I apply as instate and don't get a greencard by the time i attend?</p>
<p>I honestly dont know what I am, I was born in the states and I lived there for five years but then moved to another country......</p>
<p>i now have an korean passport cause my parents are koreans but i don't even speak korean.......... I would still get the American passport when I'm 18 right?</p>
<p>cybercookie, </p>
<p>This one appears easy, The 14th amendment to the US Constitution provides: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States ...</p>
<p>So if you were born in the US, then you are an American citizen unless you renounce that citizenship. You can probably get the American Passport now if you want.</p>
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most top tiers chools probably will count me as non-internation student
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<p>Actually, at most top tier schools, the international/domestic tag is used mostly for financial aid and for governmental reporting. As a result, most top tier schools will count you as an international student. For example, Princeton, MIT, Stanford would all consider you to be an international applicant.</p>
<p>quadonfait -</p>
<p>You are not a legal permanent resident until you actually have been awarded that status. There are LOTS of people out there who are "green card pending" who are going to have their applications rejected. Until the card is in your hot little fist, you are still only an H-2 (or whatever your current status is).</p>
<p>Now, as to whether a given college or university will consider you an in-state resident for tuition purposes is up to them. You have to ASK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM.</p>
<p>Cybercookie -</p>
<p>You need to check with the Citizens' Services office at the US consulate closest to your home about what you need to do to get a new passport. This may take a while, and will most likely require cooperation on the part of your parents because they will have to dig up proof that you are the person listed in your original birth certificate and/or pictured in your old passport, etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>Indeed. The US requires that its citizens enter the US using their US passport (which is really only an issue for those citizens with multiple nationalities). Otherwise the entry is illegal. </p>
<p>Check with the local embassy as to how Consular services work. I have lived in countries where the US embassy is fairly laid back, where there is a small expatriate community, and you could wander down to talk to the consul any time you needed to. I have also lived in London, where you need an appointment to visit an overstretched consular services unit, and that can take 6-8 weeks.</p>
<p>thanks mikalye and happymomof1, :)</p>
<p>This is a question. I am still confussed about my status. i am an American citizen but was born and educated in Japan. My mother is american and my father is Japanese.
My parents both live in Japan but I have been living and working in the US (California where my mother is from) for the past 10 months since I graduated form college. I am applying to a state college and a UC and I think there policies on residency and financial aid are different. I am in the process of filling out my FAFSA but am confused as to whether I will be considered or not as my parents do not file US Tax forms. I will file for the first time this year. Am I still elligible to file? Will a translation of my parents Tax forms be considered? They did not claim me on their 2008 TAX forms in Japan as i am living in the US and getting by on my own (although I have not been able to save anything!) If anyone has any suggestions I would really appreciate it.</p>
<p>Woops, I meant since I graduated from High School not college.</p>
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<p>You need to make appointments with the financial aid offices at the colleges/universities that you are interested in and discuss your situation in person. If you visit three different offices, you may get three completely different sets of instructions. Don't worry, just do whatever it is that each place asks and give them that set of papers.</p>
<p>And yes, you do need to file your own federal and state tax returns. You are independent for tax purposes. You probably aren't independent for financial aid purposes.</p>
<p>Since your mom is a US citizen, see if you can convince her to file a US federal tax return. Chances are that she won't owe any money because of the Foreign Income Exclusion, etc. Read all about it at Internal</a> Revenue Service If you learn that your colleges/universities will want your parents to file a FAFSA, it probably will be a bit easier for them if they can base it on a US federal tax return. You do not need to file your FAFSA online. You can file a paper version if you need to.</p>
<p>Wishing you all the best!</p>
<p>Yes, you are eligible for federal financial aid since you are a US citizen.</p>
<p>I had a similar problem with the FAFSA because my parents live overseas in Europe and don't file US tax returns either. Instead I just used the figures from their European tax returns to complete the FAFSA and gave the college's financial aid office a copy of those along with a translation I had prepared myself. </p>
<p>I lucked out when I was selected for "random verification" by the FAFSA people. Then I had to get actual official translations of all documents plus a lot of other crap that "proved" that dad and my step mom were living together (even though they are not married) etc.</p>
<p>You should talk to the colleges regarding your classification as an in-state or out-of-state student. I doubt the UCs would consider you an in-state student. Since your parents are not CA residents, you would need to show that you have been financially independent for the last two years. You would also have a hard time proving that you can finance college without the help of your parents because you are still a dependent student for financial aid purposes and your parents will be expected to contribute. That being said, you can still apply to the UCs as an out-of-state student and hope for the best.</p>