<p>Yes! It would be REALLY difficult to get accepted as an out of state transfer! Yes, you would be able to transfer after a year at a ccc in 2011! If I were you, I would not take summer classes at UCSD, I would take it at a CCC! Now, here’s the other thing… if you want to get into UCSD you will not be “qualifed” for the TAG because you need to have completed 30 units at the end of this Summer 2011. UCLA and UCB both do not have TAG so you will not need to worry about it. UCD “I can’t remember if you mentioned that school or not” WILL accept your TAG this year in September if you are enrolled full time at a CCC for this coming August.</p>
<p>It doesn’t matter where you lived your whole life in regards to residency. Residency (notwithstanding Domicile) is based upon INTENT. Oregon state law residency status use to be 3 months but is now 12 consecutive months so my mistake there. You are safe to finish this school year. </p>
<p>Oregon Admission Rules are different but still part and parcel of Oregon State Law. OAR Section 580-010-#### rules are in regards to Higher Education. That is, if you are in Oregon JUST to attend UO then that keeps you on NON resident status and yes still a California resident. It is a money and tax issue since the Republics are historical different political animals and Oregonians generally dislike Californians, with good reason.</p>
<p>That is because you are still on dependency status and have not informed any intent to stay in Oregon after graduation. Where you could run into problems is if you are working in Oregon or have obtain an Oregon DL etc. Also, Title V has sections about where one FIRST attends after high school no matter what the residency status. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t worry about it too much but also wouldn’t get too far ahead of yourself either. What you need to do if plan on coming back to California is make a plan that is reasonable, realistic and attainable. Treat a CCC like any other institution and what will transfer where. Choose what you want to do in Biology since its a large field and look at all the different UC’s because are research institutions with different programs. </p>
<p>Graduates who work in different biological fields of habitus know its the department and not the schools name that is important. You will be working with real people, some you will like, others you won’t. Taylor your degree and choice of direction towards a long term pursuit of happiness and upward mobility over being labeled a pretentious PUBLIC University name hack. Things are rarely what they seem on the surface and colleges are a business that market to the naive on future promises of hope. </p>
<p>Personally I think if you want to get out in 4 years with more potential at taking advantage of available resources you are better off staying at U of O but the decision is ultimately up to you.</p>
<p>I want to live in San Diego ultimately at the end of all my education which will include medical school after my undergrad. </p>
<p>And okay so if I want to go to UCB or UCLA which are my 2 top choice in Fall 2012 the only way you guys think that will work is by starting ccc this summer 2011?</p>
<p>Should I contact the ccc advisor and inform them of my situation and make sure all my credits transfer because at the end of this year I will have 61 units at the University of Oregon. This includes the units I got from passing the AP exams at my high school in San diego.</p>
<p>Although UCLA and UCB are great schools, the research dollars, especially in Biology for undergrads, are at UCSD. If you want to live in SD ultimately then that should factor in to a realistic goal as well. You can always transfer to UCLA for grad school which is where much of their grant and research dollars go to in the medical field. </p>
<p>Biology education is standardized for the first 4 years. What differs is the direction of research and where you want to end up. Think about what you want to do ultimately and compare your goals and future ambitions with the institutions curriculum. That is more important than buying into a schools name and will save and make you more money in the long run.</p>
<p>Okay well to get to UCSD then for undergrad because I really do not like Oregon for four years do you recommend going to a ccc this summer and transferring in in fall 2012? because if I can do that I would love it I just need to know the steps to do that like what classes I need to take.</p>
<p>Hmm, well if you are homesick and want more sun than rain this winter and can get a refund before the deadline you may want to consider coming back to California as soon as you can. Sounds like you are wasting time and money at this point and would only be putting yourself into greater detriment the longer you stay if your mind is made up. </p>
<p>Too bad since UO is a great Bio school with more opportunities while you are in school as an undergrad than the competition you will run into in California, especially with the budget situation. I think you may be a bit wishful thinking with your transfer ambitions time frame with just starting out and only a freshman still but I digress and wish you and others luck with that. </p>
<p>So…if you do decide to return ASAP…SMC has a great bio program with pretty much all the classes you will need to transfer to UCLA or UCSD. They are in their 6 week winter session right now which ends in the middle of February. That means Spring semester (16 week) starts then which buys you a little time in the transition for relocating, settling in, registration etc. </p>
<p>Your best bet is to apply for admissions now to SMC and use the money you would spend on tuition at UO for finding a room. Santa Monica is expensive but there is Westwood, Sawtelle, W. LA and Culver City close by to search for a place before the semester starts up.</p>
<p>You will have to do the basic GE, bio track and prereqs but do you know what your bio interests are at all yet?</p>
<p>Well I dont think I could leave my parents want me to at least finish the year. They want me to stay for 2 years but if i cant transfer after that I would be disappointed. </p>
<p>I want to go into medicine besides that I don’t know much about my biology specialty. you think going to a ccc starting this summer I wouldnt be able to get everything done and get to a UC by fall 2012? </p>
<p>I already have 61 credits at the end of this freshman year</p>
<p>Are those 61 credits quarter units or semester units? If they are semester units you will most likely go over the 80 maximum units allowed in order to transfer to a UC school by the time you go to a CCC for an additional year. That would only allow you 19 credits left… you’ll max out.</p>
<p>They are quarter credits, I really do not know what to do. I want to either be at my dream school by fall 2012 and graduate in 2014? is that even possible, this is what I mean by felling trapped.</p>
<p>They are quarter credits, I really do not know what to do. I want to either be at my dream school by fall 2012 and graduate in 2014? is that even possible, this is what I mean by felling trapped.</p>
<p>Since grad school is very expensive these days, I was more thinking with not taking on too much debt before one graduates. It doesn’t really matter where one goes the first two years since its federally standardized education and more depends on the instructor and the students willingness to go beyond the minimal, hopefully developing a passion for learning how to learn and developing good study habits. I personally don’t see much sense paying $700 for a GE, survey, or lower division prereq class one could take for a tenth the cost. Take all you can at a CCC even if it takes you an additional year (California 5 year undergrad plan) so you can concentrate on your upper division without hassle when you get there. Like UCSCMellisa said…be careful about having too many University units. If you do a full year you would then be considered a sophomore when realistically you would be a freshman in transition. I’m not sure your parents are aware of the small glitches that can get you if not careful. It wouldn’t ruin any chances but can become frustrating and a bit of a headache dealing with more paperwork, petitions, and appeals then you may want to contend with. The California education system is very large with lots of people so mistakes and problems DO arise if not dotting your i’s and crossing your t’s as I’m sure some can attest to here. </p>
<p>i recommended SMC since its a great CCC and that they they have a later starting Spring semester. Their Bio sequence you would need to take is Biol 21, 22, and 23 plus however much anatomy you can do if also within your interest and goal. You would/should also do Gen Chem and O-Chem I and II plus the BioChem capstone class. </p>
<p>I don’t know how far you are in your GE but you would need English 1 and 2 plus however much math you can complete, at least Calc I and II if want to attend a UC. </p>
<p>There is also the 5 GE breadth course sequence and a year of foreign language if don’t already have 2 years worth that you could petition with your HS transcript. </p>
<p>That is 2 years worth right there alone with at least 15-18 units average a semester. One of the cool things about having a winter and summer 6 week session is completing on average about an additional 12 units in a years time span.</p>
<p>Understand that Biology is both one of the most popular majors and tends to be a high unit major as well. The State of California has been streamlining the process for those fresh out of high school because the average graduation from a CCC-UC for a BS degree was exceeding 6 years for A LOT of people. </p>
<p>There is the reality of the echo boom and the entire system is impacted. Even with the streamlining process the reality still is that classes are filling up and forcing students to put their over ambitions and dream schemes on hold. Learn to live in the present (not past or future) and chip away at what you can, when you can, the best you can. You will only frustrate yourself for these realities not living up to your ideal expectations so might as well enjoy the ride and spend a little time also learning about the system or becoming involved (like a club for example) to increase your transfer chances to a UC.</p>
<p>The number 2 transfer school and degree issuing CCC is De Anza(and sister school Foothill) They are on the quarter system and a extremely strong bio and chem school. If you pile up on classes and use to and like the quarter system then that is where you want to go where you are less likely to run into point conversion problems. There are lots of nuances and benefits but start by sitting down and doing another draft plan. I (and others here) can help you more than counselors can but you need to be committed without burning yourself out.</p>
<p>Wow thank you so much for your help</p>
<p>I am about to finish my gen chem and calc this year at the unviersity of oregon. I would just need to do Bio, physics and o chem and I only need english II. </p>
<p>That being said do you think leaving oregon after this freshman year would be okay? would starting ccc in summer be alright, for transferring to a UC in fall 2012?</p>
<p>did you do US history yet or take the AP exam? will count as a humanities
How about your arts? film, photography, drawing etc
social behavioral? i.e. Gen Psyche
Chem with lab will take care of you physical/natural science requirement and Bio will handle the other half of that area. </p>
<p>You would need also the fed requirement of American Institutions (Poli Sci I-US gov) and the state requirement for meeting California Institutions(Cali geography, history or some multi-cultural equiv) as well. California has more requirements that I know of more than anywhere else!</p>
<p>Ideally you want 2 PE units or 1 PE and Health/wellness/nutrition etc. These are all stuff you will need before you obtain a bachelors in California unless exempted in your major.</p>
<p>For Bio, I really don’t think you need physics or at least not more than Gen Physics I as far as I know. Don’t hold me to that but just doesn’t make logical sense with all the bio, chem, and as much math as you can do and need.</p>
<p>You have to have two semesters of General Physics with labs in order to apply to any medical school in the United States.</p>
<p>Since I went to a California school , I have already done AP government and passed the exam, I also passed the writing AP exam and the psychology AP exam and the English AP exam and passed. I took human geography at University of Oregon which is a social science.</p>
<p>thanks lemaitre1 for clarification on that!</p>
<p>kewl, thats a good chunk of GE. I took Human Geography in Oregon as well. I liked it because had a great instructor and believe I got an A and my B was in Geography of Oregon. I just couldn’t remember all the old paper mill towns that failed all over the state. </p>
<pre><code> Human/Cultural Geography can be a bit dry depending on the teacher but many students seem to like it more than World Regional Geography which is typically the first in the geog. sequence. Its kinda annoying but still kinda funny that students looking for ‘easy’ GE classes pick geography, geology, weather or environmental science classes. They had this outdated idea that geography was all about naming state capitals or something so many non majors have gotten C’s and then were ****ed at the teacher for not paying attention.
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<p>I’ve seen the same thing happen in weather/climate which they thought they were going to talk about the weather or propaganda instead of doing science and calculations. Many also seem to confuse talking about rocks with physical geology so don’t do all that great and end up either loving or hating environmental science stuff if hurt their GPA haha. </p>
<p>I’ve noticed Californians either love or hate Oregon depending on how outdoorsy they are. Many who grew up in some tweet tweet mall lined suburbia find it a bit of a culture shock. I never even visited a mall in the entire 8 years I lived in Oregon nor ever went to some AMC movie theater, trendy chain store, watched TV, or listened to corporate radio. There was no need too since better alternatives were available. Although to really enjoy Oregon its better to be at least 21 since it was the premier microbrew capital for decades until San Diego out of all places just recently stole that title! </p>
<pre><code>Hmm, well if you are only 18 then events worth checking out are the Oregon Country Faire that use to be on Ken Keseys property just outside Eugene if you are into ten thousand plus semi naked people having fun. We use to get naked and create fun up close by Cougar and other hot springs too or just jump off 60-100+ foot cliffs into the rivers into cold ass water then relax in the lithium water springs. Snowboarding in Oregon rules too and the local boarders tend to dominate over the slow ass yuppie tourist skiers. So does windsurfing at the Columbia Gorge and the painted desert is close by and worth seeing. We use to surf the huge sand dunes on the coast not far from you which are cool to check out even if not into buggying. The forests, mountains(or cascades) and coastlines in Oregon are all beautiful and think you should at least check out Klamath while your there.
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