Ambiguiy (=p) Stats: Chances@... ?

Applying to College
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<p>I'm a junior this year, but because I will be studying on a scholarship abroad I want to complete my applications beforing going overseas. Please help find my matches and reaches! Thank you for your time and consideration!</p>

<p>Activities/Interests
- Mock Trial Association (Founder and Head Attorney) (11)
- Forensics Club (Public Forum Team Member/Manager) (10/11)
- Student Council (Homeroom Rep.) (9/10/11)
- Asian Club (Recruiter/Coordinator) (9/10/11)
- Russian Club (Re-establisher and President) (9/10/11)
- Anime/Japan Club (President) (9/10/11)
- Chess Club (Chess Team) (9/10/11)
- Christian Club (Praise Prayer/Song Leader) (9/10/11)
- Promote the Vote (Guest Speakers Committee Chairman) (10/11)</p>

<p>Hobbies =) (more for personal refinement than competition)
- Badminton/Volleyball
- Ballroom Dancing/Acting/Singing (going to begin auditioning this summer.. !)
- Sketching/Anime/Oil painting (pre-HS, once displayed on gallery with my two-month teacher's)
- Piano/Flute
- Languages: Mandarin, English, Russian, German (studying Japanese)</p>

<p>Volunteer Service
- ESL Teacher at HuaXia Chinese School
- Started a program for ESL Tutoring/Aiding Chinese/Taiwanese students (free for all attending, it's growing! plan on expanding into china and germany)
- Marlboro T.V. Cable Channel Reporter
- Cheesequake National Park Ranger’s Assistant</p>

<p>Internship
- Leman USA Inc. Assistant/Company Representative/Technical Assistant
- Holocaust Survivor assistant in writing his biography (interviewing and co-writing)</p>

<p>Research
- Researching still, topic: The Role of Caffeine in Aiding the Willingness to Rely On or Further Reliance on Other Widely Accepted Drugs
- Chinese government and culture (theories/political commentary)</p>

<p>Competitions/Awards/Honors
- CBYX Scholarship 2006 (250/international)
- NJSP at Lawrenceville Private School 2006 (39/state)
- National Merit Scholarship Candidate 2006
- Anytowner 2006 (4/556)
- MVP Government & Politics Debate Team 2006
- NSLC Law &Advocacy Summer Program 2005
- Honored Wreath Bearer at the Arlington Museum of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier 2005
(Represented NSLC)
- Shield and Key Award 2005
- National Russian Scholar Laureate Award 2005
- ACTR Scholarship 2005 (5/nation)
- Russian Olympiada 2005 #1 in State/National First Place (Gold Medal)
- Russian Olympiada 2004 #1 in State/National First Place (Gold Medal)
- National Russian Essay Contest 2004 Bronze Medal
- NJMTA Inc. Annual Recital Auditions, Honors 2004
- National Honors Society (11/12)
- Russian Honors Society (10/11/12) </p>

<p>School Transcript
A. Business Administration Vocational Program
B. Rank: 14/559
C. GPA: weighted 4.36/4.60
D. Ethnicity/Background: Chinese, immigrant
E. 9th grade
1. Gym A-
2. Health A
3. (Honors) Business Applications and Principles A
4. (Honors) Economic Global History A
5. Geometry B+
6. (Honors) English I B+
7. Lab Biology B+
8. Russian I A+
F. 10th grade
1. Gym A-
2. Health B+
3. (Honors) CPA Accounting B-
4. (Honors) Economic U.S. History I A-
5. (Honors) Algebra II C+
6. (Honors) English II A
7. Lab Chemistry A-
8. Russian III A
G. 11th grade
1. Gym/Health
2. AP Micro/Macroeconomics
3. (Honors) Economic U.S. History II
4. Pre-Calculus
5. (Honors) English III
6. AP Biology
7. AP Government and Politics</p>

<p>*<em>Couldn’t take AP Russian due to schedule conflict!
*</em>possibility of another C+ or C this year ='( hoping something might condone it?</p>

<p>H. 12th grade (if I don’t go on scholarship program)
1. Gym/Health
2. (Honors) Business Law
3. (Honors) Entrepreneurship/Business Computers
4. Calculus AB
5. AP English/Literature
6. (Honors) Physics
7. AP Russian</p>

<p>SAT I and SAT II’s and AP’s
A. SAT I
1. Math 690
2. Writing 750
3. Verbal 720
NOT TAKEN YET: probably June? and AP's in two weeks of course
B. SAT II
1. Math I
2. Literature
3. Biology
C. AP
1. Biology
2. Government and Politics
3. Microeconomics
4. Macroeconomics</p>

<p>Matches or Reaches?
Georgetown
Boston College
George Washington
University of California – Berkeley*
University of Michigan – Ann Arbor*
Cornell (NY)
Brown (RI)
Harvard (MA)
Princeton (NJ)
University of Pennsylvania
Massachusetts Inst. of Technology</p>

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<p>uhh..what's your UW gpa?</p>

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<p>i'm sorry =/ i actually Don't know how my school does the GPA because it's still very unclear whether health and gym are counted separately or as one class. but i am afraid to say that it would drop perhaps up to 0.2 points.</p>

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<p>according to your grades (10 A's, 5 B's, 1C), your unwieghted GPA is a 3.56 out of 4.00.
Reaches: Ivies, MIT
Matches: Cal, UMich, BC, GW</p>

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<p>I hate to say this, but I seriously doubt anyone gets into MIT with a C in any high school math class. You have a lot of Bs for the top colleges, but your rank is good. Do you go to Lawrenceville? If yes, it will improve your chances at good colleges with all those Bs. Mich, GW and BC seem likely, Georgetown and Cornell reasonable reaches and the others major reaches.</p>

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<p>I have to agree with suze about the math thing and MIT. I would cross it off the list.</p>

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<p>Yeah it also helps to know how to spell "ambiguity."</p>

<p>Most of them will probably be reaches except maybe Boston College and George Washington.</p>

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<p>Cesare - that was very rude and somewhat stupid since i would obviously check IF i had not known how to spell it.</p>

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<p>and it would be ambiguous stats, but i didn't like the word so much at that moment so i thought i would mix it up. and also, you can't possibly calculate my unweighted gpa since you don't know my grading system. some schools do it by 3.0, 4.0, my school has in between grades too.</p>

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<p>what about the competitions etc. and i do have passion in everything that i focus on. would it "tip the scale" so to say that i have chances? or automatic rejection do you think? yea.. i thought about mit too. but i'm considering because i know mit is looking to begin gathering well-rounded students as well (or?). a girl i met who had won for debate (only wins) got into mit with a low math score on the sats. but yea.. lol i guess with those. but what about harvard? it's not an outright rejection or? and would they be a COMPLETE reach or?</p>

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<p>I think your GPA is a bit low for some of those schools. Your list of ECs is really long...but that makes me question your depth of involvement in them. One plus though is that they are mostly in the same foreign cultures sort of category.</p>

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<p>With a 3.5 UW & a 2140 SAT, many of the very top programs are out of reach. That being said...</p>

<p>Georgetown - reach
Boston College - match / slight reach
George Washington - safe match
University of California – Berkeley* - slight reach
University of Michigan – Ann Arbor* - match
Cornell (NY) - slight reach / reach
Brown (RI) - super reach
Harvard (MA) - super reach
Princeton (NJ) - super reach
University of Pennsylvania - super reach
Massachusetts Inst. of Technology - super reach</p>

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<p>stambliark41 - my unweighted is DEFINITELY NOT a 3.5. i don't know where you people are getting these numbers from? i'm predicting that unweighted is 4.1 AT LEAST!! the system of each school is usually different so please don't try to pretend you can calculate my gpa.
btw - cornell and brown have been contacting me a lot so i don't think your judgments are accurate =/ however, i think i can agree on harvard etc. thank you for your evaluation though!</p>

<p>schebgen - ! you voiced my thoughts exactly. i definitely contribute a lot to my EC's and i will have proof. do you think that if my EC's are proved to be Real in the sense that i work extra faithfully, my low rank and sat scores can make it up? also, do you think i should take More sat II's or retake the sat I which i know i will get a higher score on?</p>

<p>hmm.. i'm keen on thinking of passion, i'm surprised no one has brought that up. but i thank everyone for their responses! =) let's see how it all plays out!</p>

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my unweighted is DEFINITELY NOT a 3.5. i don't know where you people are getting these numbers from? i'm predicting that unweighted is 4.1 AT LEAST!!

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<p>it's impossible to get a 4.1 unweighted GPA All A's and no A-'s is a 4.0, that's the highest unweighted GPA possible.</p>

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the system of each school is usually different so please don't try to pretend you can calculate my gpa.

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<p>Most colleges recalculate your GPA themselves. Michigan, for instance. doesn't weigh GPA's at all. But, the UCs do. Most schools go by your unweighted and not weighted. This thread (<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2072583#post2072583%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2072583#post2072583&lt;/a&gt;) explains how to calculate your UofM GPA.</p>

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<p>Since Michigan doesn't count Freshmen year. your mich gpa would be 3.5.
4 + 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 3 + 2 = 28. 28/8 = 3.5.</p>

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<p>yubi, colleges contact everybody. dont take contact as a sign of acceptance. It seems that you posted to try and validate your belief that you can get into the top programs like brown and cornell (though i guess within the "top" they would be second tier behind hyp,etc) but anyways people here are just giving you their evalutations and the general consensus seems to be that they are reaches. And uh...you cant have a 4.1 uw gpa..good try though.
That said we are not discouraging you from applying, you def should. were just giving you our thoughts.</p>

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<p>not in my school. why does no one understand this?!? ok. my school goes on a basis of weighted all the way up to 5.6. trust me, i know my school gpa system better than any stranger on the internet who has never even heard of marlboro high school before. this is ridiculous. the highest for unweighted is 4.6. for the sake of Something!! stop trying to tell me what my gpa is! no one knows except for ME and my counselor!</p>

<p>yes yes and i thank everyone for their evaluations, but i don't like this gpa thing with everyone trying to tell ME that they know MY school's grading system! and i am not trying to validate anything, except that what people tell me is completely inconsistent with what they tell people of Lower stats and sometimes it seems fishy doesn't it? well those are just thoughts. i do accept that the ivies are reaches though, just like they are for anyone else in this entire world.</p>

<p>[edit] thank you drew for this post!! i knew that colleges recalculated, but i didn't know that there was a standard. but it's different for each school or? hmm.. would 3.5 be very low on the 4.0 scale or average? i'm not used to it so i can't really judge!</p>

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We're only trying to figure out your UW GPA which is calculated in the same way for everyone. A=4.0 A-=3.7, etc. If the university, when looking at your application, doesn't do UW in this way, rest assured that it will have its own way of doing, and that will not necessarily be what your school says your UW GPA is. You definitely have a point if you were to argue that no one can say your W GPA is wrong, but we can all calculate your UW because everything's given equal value and AP classes don't matter more.</p>

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<p>most schools don't go by what your high school lists as your gpa. They typically recalculate it. Your GPA would be around 3.4-3.6 after the school recalculates it.</p>

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<p>hmmm.. ! well in my edit, i said that i always knew that it was recalculated. thank you two for this clear-up!! i thought i was going crazy when everyone was trying to tell me that my gpa wasn't my gpa! so the question i have now is, it is a standard or does every college have its own gpa system? also, do you think that it is possible for my (i'm presuming) low gpa to be made-up for with my EC's or it is just too low and it could make me miss the cut-off for ivies?</p>