<p>why can't we all get along? where's the love? does anyone want my love?</p>
<p>ahh back to the map pointing. hahaha. I don't see how learning where each country is located would help much in your education, but whatever.</p>
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For one thing, Chinese people dont use Google.
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<p>Okay. But that means any other search engines that they DO use, they're censored. American search engines are not. We are free to search for absolutely anything we want. And that is a great, great freedom. If the Chinese were allowed that freedom, I guarantee the vast majority would come to love it like we do.</p>
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How many students do you think will be googling the Tiananmeng Square massacre? Not many.
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<p>That's the problem. It doesn't matter AT ALL if "not many" would be looking up the massacre. The principle is that IF they did, it WOULD be censored. Americans don't have to fear that.</p>
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Sure, there are people who are being tortured for having different political views. However the chances of that happening to a college student is very very low. I would gladly concede my point if a college student from China posts how they have been tortured by the gov't. I doubt there are many if any at all.
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<p>Once again: It doesn't matter AT ALL that the chances of torture of a college student at the hands of the government are "very very low." In America, the chances are absolutely non-existent. It is unthinkable. Even beyond college students, anybody with different political views are NOT tortured.</p>
<p>Any person who's lived in America during Bush's administration has seen the enormous controversy and political dichotomy that's occured within the nation. Anyone can tell you about the demonstrations against the president, from mass protests in the streets of the cities to insulting jokes told on TV shows to insulting comics printed in Newsweeks or Time magazine. Liberalism and feelings against the president are pervasive in college life in America. </p>
<p>Could extreme opposition to the current administration happen in China without some form of retribution? I really, really don't think so. </p>
<p>Americans with differing political views are so vocal because they aren't afraid of what the president can do. There's an inherent feeling of power and voice and protection that ordinary citizens have. It is really incomparable.</p>
<p>I think generally that an American education IS, at the moment, "better" than a Chinese one, because it can offer far more opportunities. Mostly due to America's better financial resources, modernity and better access to information and books, and lack of censorship. We are freer to do what we want, think what we want, learn what we want, and learn how we want. And at the moment, its gotten us to the top. </p>
<p>American college students have FAR more opportunities than Chinese college students. Just think about it. Even in the most remote and less-populated states of America-- say Minnesota or Nebraska-- there are colleges with trained professionals teaching, offering access to (uncensored) libraries and (uncensored) internet access. Can you find those sort of institutions in the most remote regions of China? Heck no. </p>
<p>If those attributes are basic, expected offerings in colleges in as remote places as Nebraska, USA, just imagine what Harvard, Yale, Princeton let alone the UCs or Emory or Vanderbilt or Wellesley can offer. </p>
<p>Let's not also count out, besides free speech and financial resources and information resources, the multiculturalism avaliable in the States that you can't find anywhere else. The learning that takes place among a variety of nationalities and ethnicities in American universities is absolutely unparalleled. It's not just colleges in New York or Los Angeles or Chicago, either. </p>
<p>You can go to Louisiana, part of the heart of the Southern United States, and find Taiwanese students. You can go to a university in the heart of the Midwest and find students visiting from the Middle East. It's amazing, singular to America. Think about the many brilliant Chinese (and Indians, and South Koreans, and Pakistanis etc) who come to America to study. If a Chinese education is really that superior, why would so many Chinese travel thousands of miles and spend huge sums of money for an American education instead?</p>
<p>At the moment, an American education can simply provide far more opportunities than a Chinese one. An American education is generally better.</p>
<p>i believe they're changing it but at some of the big name unis in china, if they find out you're having sex while in college, its grounds for getting expelled. I don't mean like sex inside the college (in dorms or whatever) but while you're a college student. I read this in a local chinese newspaper not that long ago but i believe several unis have changed their policy. also in the article china cancelled a national aids day that included passing out condoms because they were afraid everyone would go and have sex..</p>
<p>"They haven't been insulting? Then why do you keep replying? Why did you accuse me of masturbating to gay bestiality (???) as a insulting retort? Weird..."</p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH</p>
<p>MAN that was funny! Why are all of you in here so angry lol</p>
<p>tourguide .. i don't think people on here are necessarily defending the "superiority" of the chinese systems. they're pointing out differences, giving explanations for why things are the way they are, providing insights...</p>
<p>The real answer is ...</p>
<p>no matter what anyone here says, The Chinese system will stay the way it is and so will the American system. The debate really is a ego-boosting flame war</p>
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also in the article china cancelled a national aids day that included passing out condoms because they were afraid everyone would go and have sex..
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<p>What's next, they're going to cancel health classes because it teaches kids about drugs and sex?</p>
<p>aw give china a break.. they have enough babies there already.</p>
<p>sorry. =]</p>
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china, your great country makes our happy meals possible
-stephen colbert
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<p>This thread has made my evening.
The title alone holds racial conotations towards Americans.</p>
<p>When you live under a dictatorship, a system of government that involves the individual with the largest stick ruling the country, and almost 3/4 of the population living in poverty and villages from the 1800's, you have no room to criticize.</p>
<p>Please, stay the **** in your country.
Keep your superior Chinese education in the country that kills off first born females.</p>
<p>the OP has plenty of room to criticize. are we afraid of criticism?</p>
<p>but if you want to be defensive and hold racial connotations(what) toward the Chinese.. :shrug:</p>
<p><< Keep your superior Chinese education in the country that kills off first born females.>>
Actually, though female infanticide has historically been a problem in China, that is decreasing as the govt is offering incentives to families that have girls. A larger problem with female infanticide and sex-selective abortions is evolving in India. </p>
<p><<also in="" the="" article="" china="" cancelled="" a="" national="" aids="" day="" that="" included="" passing="" out="" condoms="" because="" they="" were="" afraid="" everyone="" would="" go="" and="" have="" sex..="">></also></p>
<p>Yes, and several years ago the US cancelled a billion-dollar AIDS initiative because it did not stress abstinence adequately. </p>
<p><<almost 3="" 4="" of="" the="" population="" living="" in="" poverty="" and="" villages="" from="" 1800's,="" you="" have="" no="" room="" to="" criticize.="">></almost></p>
<p>With China's rate of economic growth, this may not be the case for very much longer. In the US, 1/11 families, 1/9 adults, and 1/6 children live below the poverty line. While our statistics are enviable in comparison to China's, they are nearly inexcusable for a wealthy country that prides itself on social mobility and freedom. Incidentally, if one wishes to see what a society would look like without social safety nets, I would refer you to rural China. If one would like to see what the environment would look like without govt regulation, I would recommend that you take a look at China's coastal region.</p>
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<p>I am not defending the Chinese system by any means. But I think it's important to examine our own country just as critically as we do others. Self-examination has been integral to America's past successes as a nation. (Case in point: after careful critical examination of the AIDS policy described above and its consequences, we revised it and integrated abstinence education with condom and other contraceptive education; with some success in west Africa.) </p>
<p>The freedom to speak freely and openly--to question our govt, to examine our weaknesses in an attempt at self-improvement--is something that many posters on this thread have been extolling as one of America's greatest virtues. So why is it that noone seems to be utilizing it? Freedom and privileges carry responsibilities with them--especially when, as so many other American posters have pointed out, citizens of other countries do not have those same privileges.</p>
<p>As a practical concern, China is demonstrating consistent economic growth; and it is investing its capital in infrastructure, R & D, defense, education, and American debt. In short, it is positioning itself as a world superpower. To dismiss it in such a flippant manner would be very imprudent.</p>
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Do Chinese students play Kancho?
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Haha probably. I know they do in Korea.</p>
<p>what's the meaning of "play Kancho"?</p>
<p>The</a> kancho...</p>
<p>oh really lixuelai... china isnt a censoring dictatorship?</p>
<p>so am i allowed to directly insult Hu Jintao on national television, and march through beijing promoting democracy with picket signs against communism? basically can i have FREE SPEECH and voice my opinion against the CCP and chinese values without being killed or jailed on some fradulent charge? the answer is no</p>
<p>Jesus christ. What a bunch of bigots.</p>
<p>Oh my goodness, this thread takes the cake for the thread on CC most chock full of ignorant sweeping sterotypes. China=big bad country with big bad dictators and 100% censorship with brainwashed students who are not actually smart, just good memorizers. While America is the glorious exalted haven for individualism and independant thinking where the students are not lazy but rather, just free. </p>
<p>These blatant beliefs really make me lose faith in the american educational system. The American system teaches students to think for themselves but yet certain statements in this thread is still dripped in century old racism and McCarthy era anti-communist propoganda.</p>
<p>give me a break, everything i said is true... its not like im making up facts like mccarthy, and i guarantee u sure as hell wouldnt want to live in china</p>
<p><< so am i allowed to directly insult Hu Jintao on national television, and march through beijing promoting democracy with picket signs against communism?....the answer is no>></p>
<p>In fact, there have been criticisms of China's govt made on national television. He Shang, or the River Elegy was a six-part TV miniseries that aired during primetime on national TV. It articulated Western ideals and openly criticized current Chinese political practices and cultural attitudes. It sparked debate on campuses and in the streets; copies of its script sold like hotcakes. In fact, He Shang was so popular it was even re-aired on CCTV with the support of the CCP general secretary. </p>
<p>Would I like to live in China? Probably not. Does it have its shortcomings? Sure. But I think the OP's intent in creating this thread was to go beyond superficial generalizations and oversimplifications that pervade Chinese perceptions of the US and vice versa. V. few ppl here have attempted to do so.</p>