<p>there are a good amount of people who don't even study 15 hours a week.</p>
<p>Zorz: If you're studying 15 hours a day and getting Cs, the only possible explanations are:</p>
<p>1) You're not studying for the classes you're getting marks in.</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>2) You're so not able to understand things in class that you have to study absurd amounts to compensate.</p>
<p>Take your pick.</p>
<p>(Same goes for 50g50g)</p>
<p>have you found that after studying your butt off for a class and dedicating all your resources and energy that you have not got the grade you wanted? also what exactly is grade deflation?</p>
<p>Grade deflation is used to describe schools that have average gpa's around 3.00. In terms of actually "deflating grades," I have never heard anyone tell me that their professors give a lower grade than the raw score earned in a class. Basically, the lack of inflation = deflation.</p>
<p>i am taking physics 3 now and the average in the class is a 88, I am at a 72% and I am currently at an F, and the 88% pertains to a C. is that deflation, Im not sure.,</p>
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Grade deflation is used to describe schools that have average gpa's around 3.00. In terms of actually "deflating grades," I have never heard anyone tell me that their professors give a lower grade than the raw score earned in a class. Basically, the lack of inflation = deflation.
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False. Curving down is a relatively frequent occurrence.</p>
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my roommate never went to one class, unless there was a test. never bought the books, never studied, didn't even review before tests. Guess what all A's.
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<p>Followed by...</p>
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I think it is foolish to say you study 2 hours a day. If you are then your school sucks and you arent going to be succesful.
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<p>In that case: "I think it is foolish to say your roommate studies 0 hours a day. If he is then your school sucks and you aren't going to be successful."</p>
<p>You know, Zorz, if you truly study 15 hours a day and can't even manage to stay near average in a Physics course, you need to re-evaluate your major. I strongly feel engineering isn't for you.</p>
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I say the best way to study that bs is to get the answers and just remember steps., thats what I do.
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<p>Given that post, it seems to me your approach to "studying" is memorizing the solutions to problem sets, rather than understanding the actual material. But now tell me - what happens when the tests don't exactly mirror the problem sets? Oh that's right - you go on this message board and complain about how rough you have it.</p>
<p>Either change your study habits or change your major.</p>
<p>Tests never mirror Problem sets, but the problems sets are a pretty good determinate of all the possibilities of problems I will see.</p>
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i am taking physics 3 now and the average in the class is a 88, I am at a 72% and I am currently at an F, and the 88% pertains to a C. is that deflation, Im not sure.
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<p>No, that's called lying.</p>
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Curving down is a relatively frequent occurrence.
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<p>Um, no it is not. Maybe 20 years ago it was but not anymore. Nowadays, when you hear the term grade deflation thrown around it usually means that the school does not inflate grades.</p>
<p>PSLaplace, we've pretty much determined Zorz is a troll.</p>
<p>how am I lying and Im not a troll, everything ive said here has been true.</p>
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Um, no it is not. Maybe 20 years ago it was but not anymore. Nowadays, when you hear the term grade deflation thrown around it usually means that the school does not inflate grades.
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Bell curving in engineering doesn't happen?</p>
<p>let's e-kick his ass :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Hang in there Zorz. I don't really believe the 'little effort' folks. Everyone I knew in eng. school worked their butts off, far in excess of anyone else, and all were successful engineers. CS is HARD and TONS of work. Majors vary in difficulty, and schools vary widely in difficulty (yes, some are much easier, some much harder), and individual students vary widely in academic (not necessarily engineering) ability. PS the average test score in my day was a 50% in virtually every technical class.</p>
<p>yeah, hang in there troll.</p>
<p>So for everyone besides Zorz, is 2-3 hours a day a good general estimate of how much work you have related to engineering each day (so not counting unrelated school subjects like English, language, etc.)?</p>
<p>That might be a good estimate. It also depends on the person. And the school.</p>
<p>I think 2-3 hrs a day is a bit much. If you can actually pull it off, then that's great, but it's definitely not necessary to study that much. I take notes in class, go to discussion and do assigned homework, but I don't really spend time studying unless I'm forced to due to approaching tests. I study maybe five hours per midterm and 7-8 hours per final. So maybe ~15 hrs/class a quarter not including homework? I'm a B student though, so I guess those people putting in their hours are the ones that pull of the 4-5 A's that are given out each quarter...</p>
<p>you guys go to easy schools then. to be honest, I know art students that study at my school more than you guys study in an engineering program at your school. When I say I study as much as I do, I am telling the truth. I have no need to lie.</p>
<p>If it's easy, so be it. Companies seem not to mind.</p>