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<p>Okay, that was part of your point, but you also kept claiming that you had to be “cooped up” in the winter. While it can be nice to be inside by a crackling fire with friends, and while it can be conducive to studying <em>gasp</em> – still, it is not at all necessary. By the way, I love wake boarding too. It’s one of the things I like to do in the summer, lol.</p>
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<p>Saga continues. Today’s 70 degree at Cornell may have changed CB’s mind. Cornell is on top again. </p>
<p>I guess Cornell’s yield is going up this year because of the weather. WLs are ***** out of luck. </p>
<p>You can all stop Florida vs NY now.</p>
<p>oldfort:</p>
<p>I don’t appreciate your snide little asides about me, they’re just not true.</p>
<p>Yes, Cornell was absolutely gorgeous today, there’s no doubt about it. But a nice day is not something that would drive me to pick one school over another… if you’re jaded, don’t mock me. Instead, reevaluate your reasons for wanting to mock someone you don’t even know.</p>
<p>Anyway, I definitely liked Cornell today. It was indeed beautiful, but I kept in mind how in looked/felt during winter when I visited last and didn’t forget that the weather is not always that beautiful.
And the food IS what it’s cracked up to be: I ate in Appel, and the selection was actually really good and there were a lot of healthy options that tasted great.
Dorms: Donlon was cool, Dickson was a prison, and JAM/Low Rises were… prison towers?
Classes: One got cancelled randomly (a HumEc class I really wanted to go to, but there was a fire drill and I guess everyone just deserted class) and the other, Intro to Linguistics, was QUITE cool.
People: Some were friendly, some weren’t. My fellow majors were kind of uninteresting though… a lot of them kind of just sat there and didn’t say much. Left in the middle of the premed panel to meet up with collegehopefull, lmao (yeah cc!)</p>
<p>And, oldfort, they can discuss Florida vs NY as long as they want to…</p>
<p>My feeling, from having read quite a few posts over the past months, is that Oldfort is actually a very smart, generous, and well spoken woman. My take is that she’s a dignified Cornellian, and has some family members who are the same. She is not afraid, however, to sometimes call it like she sees it, in terms of the wide variety of what she sees on this board … and I’ve also seen some of what she’s written clearly misinterpreted, both in terms of facetious comments, and in terms of factual statements. As for me, I very much respect Oldfort, and I find what she says worth careful consideration.</p>
<p>I mocked you because you are not honest with people, and more importantly you are not honest with yourself. I read you 10 pages back. These nice people have shared their life experience with you, given you valuable medical school information. They were doing it because they thought you were still seriously considering Cornell(you knew that). Meanwhile you were posting on Williams board to say that you hope you wouldn’t have to go to Cornell(were you just saying it on the Williams board for their benefit also?) The only thing that’s standing in the way is Williams FA.</p>
<p>Cornell isn’t for everyone, and many people do choose other schools over Cornell. But you continue to come back here after you have announced to the world it is not for you to 1) get attention, 2) get very good information that you are not getting anywhere else (not just about Cornell, but about your future studies/career).</p>
<p>Good for you that Cornell had a beautiful day. It is hard not to fall in love with Cornell on a day like today. Any of the reasons you have listed above are not good reasons for choosing Cornell over Williams.</p>
<p>Colm - thank-you. As I spend more time on this board, I have come to respect even more or Cornell’s education. There are some very well spoken/intelligent graduates and current students on this board. It is not just their intelligence, but their honesty and integrity. I think CR2005 and Dewdrop slapped me when I said it was ok to leave early for breaks, because it was the wrong message to send to new students. Many students I’ve met are just like them - smart, down to earth, and with a lot of common sense.</p>
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<p>It’s always beautiful in Ithaca. But I’m of the opinion one needs to graduate from Cornell before you can begin to appreciate that.</p>
<p>“It’s always beautiful in Ithaca.”</p>
<p>^ He’s not just being weird - March brought some rather cold, windy and rainy days…but for some reason they were enjoyable; the campus just looks nice in a lot of different seasons, and that plays a big role in your perception of weather.</p>
<p>oldfort- somewhat more benign interpretation. Not necessarily everyone here has been duped, perhaps more the case that:
a)on-line personae became somewhat friendly during long on-line application cycle, which included ED deferral.
b)People here happy to chat/ share information with people they are friendly with, regardless of where they will attend college.
c)True, probably most do not read comments posted to Williams board, and some might care. And true, equivalently stark comments were not simultaneously posted here, and that was likely not an oversight. Many might not have really cared anyway though, as motivations relate more to a) & b) above than to college matriculation decision.</p>
<p>Anyway some modicum of actually useful information has been posted on this now-mega-thread, which, if sifted for and extracted, could be useful to others. That is, juniors in high school deciding on where to apply to in the first place.</p>
<p>oldfort: I’m not trying to dupe anyone. I’m being honest that I’m probably not going to attend Cornell, but if I go to Williams on Monday and don’t fall in love with it, I may well end up at Cornell for reasons other than the great weather yesterday…
I sincerely appreciate all the amazing advice I’m getting on this thread and others from Cornellians: without it, I would be much less informed about things, and probably going into this blind, since my parents don’t know the ins and outs of the college process because they are immigrants. And I thought the whole matriculation decision discussion was done with-- I’ll just figure it out eventually. Attention seeking? Not at all. Information seeking? Of course. But most of all, I feel obligated to the people who have helped me since October with the college process, and am very grateful for it. I think you, oldfort, have slightly misinterpreted my purpose for posting on this board… yes, I am not inclined towards matriculating, but I might decide to. I might decide not to. But I view this thread as more of a friendly exchange of information/opinions/etc. than an attention-magnet to serve my ego.
I think that should be manifested in the fact that I didn’t start the thread, and have absolutely no maligned intentions for anyone, and most definitely aren’t trying to dupe anyone.
And with regards to the whole not wanting to go to Cornell thing on the Williams board, that wasn’t said for the benefit of anyone… one day I’m 100% for one school, and the next day I’m not. It’s as simple as that. Let’s just all get along! (Isn’t being corny always nice… ;))</p>
<p>Oldfort: At first, I was annoyed with your comments on this thread. But, now I understand where you’re coming from and I’m more inclined to side with you. </p>
<p>I’m trying to avoid packing for my conference, so I took a moment to peruse the Williams forum. Chandler posted that Williams was always his “dream school.” So, Chandler, why did you apply ED to Cornell? </p>
<p>For the sake of Chandler and everyone else involved in this thread, I hope May 1st comes fast.</p>
<p>Now…it’s time for me to take my leave and head off to Denver for my cancer research conference (another benefit of my Cornell experience 
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<p>Well, Williams was my first choice until I visited Cornell last year, and Cornell became my first choice.
And now it’s back to Williams… just kind of vacillating I guess.</p>
<p>I applied ED because Cornell was actually my top choice, but then I started looking at other colleges and you know the rest.</p>
<p>So yeah… just have to visit Williams one more time and not post on these forums anymore because everyone hates me lol…</p>
<p>Great.</p>
<p>Sometimes you have to give college admissions people some credit, maybe they know what they are doing.</p>
<p>My D1 was waitlisted someplace we thought she should have been admitted to, she was kind of upset about it at the time. Then later, D2, a worse student, was not only admitted but actually attended that college. And then I came to realize it was actually not nearly as close a fit for D1, given her interests, as it was for D2. Maybe this is why D1 was not accepted.</p>
<p>In the current case, perhaps it’s possible admissions people were not convinced of a compelling fit justifying a well-considered ED application, and wanted to see if applicant still really wanted it when considered in the company of other options in hand. Seeing as how they had other ED applicants who fit more evidently.</p>
<p>Maybe.</p>
<p>CB - I do wish you luck, they are both wonderful schools. I am dubious about making a college decision based on admitted student days for many reasons.</p>
<p>Internet is a powerful thing and so are emails. I had to pull an employee’s email record recently. I was amazed it was available to me within an hour - it included both current AND deleted emails.</p>
<p>I got a lot of good information on this thread for my D2, including medical school information (D2 an aspiring journalist, possible doctor because of House).</p>
<p>dewdrop - After May 1, then there is the summer melt. My sense is this year is going to be a lot worse than other years. Cornell’s yield may very well go up because of nice weather for Cornell Days this year.</p>
<p>Oh and dewdrop: have fun at that conference, sounds cool.</p>
<p>monydad: You may have a point, but I was 100% convinced of my fit for HumEc when I applied ED. Maybe I should actually start thinking about where I fit best in terms of reality now… I think I’ve let the whole deferral thing cloud my judgment way too much.
I may end up choosing Cornell (not that any of you would care anymore, lol, since I just got shot down pretty badly by oldfort/dewdrop and with good reason) because of the major I got into. I really can’t tell at this point.</p>
<p>You may have a point, monydad. But I don’t think that’s the case. I’ll have to visit the second one and then formulate a well thought out decision. There were a lot of things that were amazing about Cornell that stick out in my mind, and a few things that I didn’t like. </p>
<p>And I’m sorry if anyone feels I tried to dupe them, but I really wasn’t.
Thank you for all the wonderful information you’ve given me that I have to work with: I couldn’t have gotten this far without it.
These feelings are sincere, genuine, and not attempts to deceive.</p>
<p>oldfort: Thank you :)</p>
<p>The medical school information was awesome, haha House is a ridiculous show, but I’ve only seen like 3 episodes of it (I know, blasphemy).</p>
<p>I actually agree with you about admitted student days. The more I think about it, the more I believe that tours and info sessions are just not the best way to get to know a college. But there’s no other alternative, really.</p>
<p>What do you mean by summer melt?
If I choose Cornell, it won’t be because of Cornell Days or the weather. It’ll be simply due to me believing it’s a better fit (it might happen, you never know what Williams Previews will do to me, haha).
I hate being fickle :O</p>
<p>oldfort - I see where you are coming from now. I am sorry for lashing out at you; I still don’t agree with your opinions about choosing colleges being logical, but I see now you had the best of intentions.</p>
<p>CB - now looking at your posts on other boards, it does seem a bit disingenuous. “I wish I do not have to go to Cornell …” and “I am 99% sure I am a Williams '13er.” Either college you choose will be a great experience. But if you are 99% sure, don’t string the rest of us along. And if you do decide to come to Cornell because Williams FA sucks, don’t make it out like you are going to hate it here.</p>
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<p>sometimes sacrifices have to be made…i love cornell but i hate the cold…i’m sure if i had gone to tulane i would have hated the stickiness/humidity of louisiana…</p>
<p>chendrix: Yeah, you’re right. I’m down to about 95% sure (lol) but I guess “stringing you along” might be what I was unintentionally doing.
If I choose Cornell, I’ll be more than happy… it’s an amazing place to be and why on earth would I complain about how I hate it?
If anything, I’ll just forget about all other colleges and take advantage of as much as is humanly possible at Cornell. Which is a lot.</p>
<p>Freezing winters>stickiness/humidity IMO. That’s why I love spring in upstate NY: it’s not humid, and it’s not overly hot. It’s perfect.</p>
<p>Summer melt is referring to WL. Assume you accept W. You get off Harvard WL in June. You accept Harvard and decline Williams in June. Williams takes someone off their WL to take your spot. That person accepts Williams, then declines school X, now school X needs to take someone off their WL…Sometimes this goes on until late Aug/early Sep.</p>
<p>Chendrix - I allow my kids the luxury of making decision based on emotion(gut). I am their safety net, I am the cold logic.</p>