<p>Congratulations keepinitreal! Ditto on the like.</p>
<p>I went to Dimensions and the whole protesting thing didn’t seem to shock me. In my mind, I thought all colleges always have protests of some sorts occasionally. </p>
<p>I know Berkeley has protests all the time so I actually liked that Dartmouth students found it surprising because it just goes to show that protests are rare at Dartmouth.</p>
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I was being fatuous in naming the prospective students as the true victims, mocking some of the language in the original post that was so over the top it bordered on self-parody. “You have been robbed of that pure, wholesome, healthy enjoyment, and for that I am truly sorry. Your experience was ruined by the aforementioned group of people who dont know the true Dartmouth experience.” Jeez, these students witnessed a protest not a murder.
I’ll concede you this point. The protest was done without much respect for the students who worked on Dimensions. They did not deserve to have the results of their labor spoiled.</p>
<p>The thing about the protesters is that they’re not liberals - they’ve been condemned by campus liberals, in fact. They are extremely far left, and are against the free market system itself. The leader of the protests is also the founder of the Dartmouth Radical - on April 1st they published a number of articles which provides insight into their platforms.</p>
<p>[Revolution</a> in Economics Department | The Dartmouth Radical](<a href=“http://thedartmouthradical.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2013/04/01/revolution-in-economics-department/]Revolution”>Revolution in Economics Department – The Dartmouth Radical)</p>
<p>As early as October of last year they were casting themselves as heroic martyrs over cuts to Dartmouth’s staff (which has been shown to be disproportionately large, and already receives an above-market wage).</p>
<p>“As conscientious members of the Dartmouth community, we see no choice but to oppose injustice wherever it occurs. Injustice is occurring here at Dartmouth College. We thus inform you that if the following demands are not met by Friday, November 2nd, we will resort to more drastic measures. All other avenues of dialogue and persuasion have failed; we will not watch silently as you, the Dartmouth administration, commit grave injustices.”</p>
<p>[Letter</a> Delivered to Parkhurst | The Dartmouth Radical](<a href=“http://thedartmouthradical.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2012/10/26/letter-delivered-to-parkhurst/]Letter”>Letter Delivered to Parkhurst – The Dartmouth Radical)</p>
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<p>My point is, it’s a shame nobody’s talking about how the protesters frequently demonstrate an impaired understanding of the real world. They knee-jerk oppose cuts to staff, because… Dartmouth has a social justice obligation to pay for workers it doesn’t need?</p>
<p>Occupy Wall Street isn’ t going on and this is a cause du jour it seems.</p>
<p>As a current student who has had a less than enjoyable experience at Dartmouth, I think it is time for everyone to stop the propaganda and deal in facts as they exist. There is hazing and racism and classism at Dartmouth. There is. Maybe not everyone has experienced it, but many, many have. And Dartmouth won’t do a thing about it. When someone gets hurt or dies, then they will have to answer, but until then they sweep it under the rug, make believe it doesn’t exist. Anyone thinking about enrolling should read the CC thread,<br>
“Deal-Breaker! DD will NOT attend Dartmouth,” and read the articles linked in the thread. It is a problem, and a problem that has not been dealt with because of the people who keep swearing there is no problem. So sad.</p>
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<p>Far be it from me to correct you if you wish to characterize your remarks as “fatuous,” but I have the feeling that the word you were searching for here was “facetious.” :)</p>
<p>Fredoliver, we get it. You didn’t have a great college experience. You should have transferred and been happier at another school. But the vast majority of kids at Dartmouth love it. Even you cannot deny that. Is everyone happy? No. And that is the case at every school. Same with racism, hazing, etc. Problems exist at very college, but most kids at Dartmouth abhor racism, etc. I am sorry you had such a terrible time there. My daughter is in love with Dartmouth, as are all of her friends. She is friends with lots of boys, and they did not experience hazing. Are there houses where it exists? Maybe. But there are many where it does not. And the Greek system at Dartmouth is a positive. They are open and inclusive. The daughter of one of my friends is at a school where they look over the girls and won’t let them in unless they are judged to be hot. Boys welcome, never. That would never happen at Dartmouth. There are so many positives about this school. The education is first class. There is a reason Dartmouth always tops the undergraduate teaching rankings. Corporate recruiting is such an asset. So many schools do nothing to assist their students in obtaining internships and jobs. At Dartmouth, the opportunities are plentiful. It is a wonderful place to spend four years.</p>
<p>Maybe some current students like Dartmouth, but look at how many FACULTY (at least 105) are fed up:</p>
<p>[Dartmouth</a> Hazing: Faculty Condemn ‘Moral Thuggery’ In Letter To Administration](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>Dartmouth Hazing: Faculty Condemn 'Moral Thuggery' In Letter To Administration | HuffPost College)</p>
<p>Was this letter mentioned in the program for accepted students?</p>
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<p>As a Dartmouth alum, I don’t know what aggrieves me more about this “open letter”: Its prolixity and semi-coherence, or its disingenuousness and inaccuracy in asserting the non-existence or triviality of homophobia and racism on campus.</p>
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<p>Bravo, Fredoliver91! It’s high time that some members of the “Dartmouth community” start telling the truth. The current administration certainly isn’t doing it.</p>
<p>The Dartmouth administration has many faults, but they have addressed fraternity hazing. I know they met multiple times with heads of Greek houses, and it is an ongoing discussion. Dartmouth has its issues, but there are issues at every school. Interesting link in the article DMAlum posted linked to problems at Ivy league schools. Hazing at Cornell and at UPenn in student government, etc. I’m not sure what the disagreement is here. Dartmouth is a wonderful college, albeit not the perfect fit for everyone. Many students of all races, income level, etc love it. Are there issues? Sure. But every school has them. Dartmouth is not unique in that respect.</p>
<p>“Are there issues? Sure.”</p>
<p>Do you care to discuss them with the readers here?</p>
<p>P.S. Here’s a little insight into the life of a young scholar at Dartmouth, a “world class academic institution,” published in the College’s official student newspaper:</p>
<p><a href=“http://thedartmouth.com/2012/05/18/mirror/schedule[/url]”>http://thedartmouth.com/2012/05/18/mirror/schedule</a></p>
<p>What do I see as issues? Pretty much the same at every college campus. Some kids drink too much. Some make bad decisions. Some do or say things they shouldn’t. But none of this is a problem if you use good judgement. I just strongly believe that Dartmouth has the most inclusive social scene I have ever heard of. Being welcome at any frat, boy or girl, is unique to Dartmouth. And I love that Dartmouth greek life has kids from different races and nationalities. And as a parent, the safety of Hanover is so important. The pros of Dartmouth outweigh any negatives. Unfortunately, the reality is there are always a few bad apples, and their actions do not speak for the student body.</p>
<p>Another glimpse into the life and values of students at Dartmouth, published in the official student newspaper, no less:</p>
<p>[TheDartmouth.com:</a> Animal House](<a href=“http://thedartmouth.com/2011/01/28/mirror/animal]TheDartmouth.com:”>http://thedartmouth.com/2011/01/28/mirror/animal)</p>
<p>Even “The Dartmouth Review” is now lamenting terrible problems with alcoholism, racism, sexism and sexual assault on campus; is the dam finally bursting?!!:</p>
<p>[[Print</a>] Reform Students, Not Fraternities - Dartlog - The Dartmouth Review](<a href=“http://dartreview.com/dartlog/2013/4/29/print-reform-students-not-fraternities.html][Print”>http://dartreview.com/dartlog/2013/4/29/print-reform-students-not-fraternities.html)</p>
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<p>“There is absolutely a disturbing lack of respect for women on this campus.”</p>
<p>–“The Dartmouth Review,” April 29, 2013</p>
<p>anyone paying attention to all the threats the protesters have gotten or is that not important? classes cancelled because of the threats</p>
<p>ugly doings at dartmouth</p>
<p>And, some not so ugly doings: [TheDartmouth.com:</a> LGBT students discuss experiences at College](<a href=“http://thedartmouth.com/2013/04/30/news/event]TheDartmouth.com:”>http://thedartmouth.com/2013/04/30/news/event)</p>