analysis: why was i rejected from UCLA

<p>well i got rejected for aerospace engineering. at first i was like 'oh well' since i was missing the last semester of physics and pre reqs are supposed to be super important. then i read through the admit thread and saw someone got in for electrical engineering (my alt) and also missing the last semester of physics and a lower GPA. </p>

<p>for reference here is [url="<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14255335-post30.html%22%5Dmy%5B/url"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14255335-post30.html"]my[/url&lt;/a&gt;] decision post and the [url="<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14257277-post77.html%22%5Dother%5B/url"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14257277-post77.html"]other[/url&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/p>

<p>i thought my app was pretty impressive. i played football, soccer, baseball and track in hs. continuously did community service in high school, through my navy career (5 years), and in 2 years at CC. i also wrote about how i was a crap ass student in high school (failed several classes) and turned around in college with a 4.0 (at the time i wrote it). i also wrote about my naval career. i was the ground supervisor for the Navy's ONLY medevac squadron at the age of 20, directly responsible for 6 helicopters and the safety of over 100 personnel. also, first gen college. </p>

<p>what else do these mofos want? my first born child?</p>

<p>don't really want to go to UCLA anymore but its killing me not knowing why</p>

<p>You know you can call them and ask why you were rejected. If they made a mistake or something, you can appeal and you will likely be given admission.</p>

<p>i guess i will try tomorrow. sounds crazy to me that they would actually take the time to answer calls like that. those admission guys must be the most overworked administrators ever.</p>

<p>You could call them and as if you want. Though I’d assume the reason was indeed was you missing pre-req and/or GPA. Electrical Engineering had the highest acceptance rate of any major in HSEAS (35.56%), higher than even the than the average acceptance rate for all majors combined, while AE had only a 16.19% acceptance rate.</p>

<p>Did you actually get into caltech? Eff UCLA, go there instead.</p>

<p>R u non traditional? I see people from ccc’s getting accepted to ucla all of the time with 3.5 gpas so your situation is a bit perplexing to me. I would call to see what was wrong maybe bad essays? Or you can reapply next year/spring after fulfilling that physics class and or applying only to electrical engineering.</p>

<p>When did you hear from CT?</p>

<p>I would guess pre-reqs. They may be different for Aero than EE and who knows how UCLA considers alternate majors.</p>

<p>Haha. “Personal statement: awesome.” I like that :)</p>

<p>You did apply to other UC’s, right? You look like a shoo-in and I’m just as surprised you didn’t get in. I would think other UC’s would take you in right away, especially UCSD, TAG or not.</p>

<p>prereqs are vital. and where we live (geography) is in my opinion also very important. someone with equal stats who lives in LA would take preference over someone who lives in northern california. this is a good thing because moving is something that students can ill afford! something to keep in mind. listen, it is just crazy how things go in the world but you are obviously a smart person. maybe you can get into cal. anyway, ANY UC is a superb school and five of them are listed as the Best Public Schools in the Country. how lucky are we? graduate school is just around the corner, and you can apply to another school once you get a BA. good luck on friday is you applied to CAL. i did and of course i am a bit stressed about their decision. good luck. and i really feel for you dude. but we must be tough to be happy. </p>

<p>p.s. if i were you, i would also just appeal. they may discourage it, but you have nothing to lose!</p>

<p>If the other student had very good grades at his CSU before transferring to a CCC that may have helped him. Demonstrated ability to succeed at a four year university as well as a CCC could have made him look like a better applicant.</p>

<p>oh, and of course you had:</p>

<p>IGETC (completed)
Math and English GE: Completed prior to this semester
60 UC transferable units
Prereqs?</p>

<p>Anyway, those are the basic requirements. The 60 unit deal is often overlooked. Or math and english In Progress is also a killer. If it was one of those things, then you can also reapply next year.</p>

<p>^CCC transfers get priority, no matter what. It shouldn’t have looked better to start at a CSU.</p>

<p>I know these are stressful times, but can I be real here for a second? Don’t get me wrong, just reading the little overview of yourself makes me wish I could give you my UCLA admission (… that is, unless Cal turns me down…), but do you realize what you’re doing? You’re undermining everyone else who got in. </p>

<p>When people make threads like this on this forum it’s effectively saying “look how amazing I am, how did all of these lesser beings get picked over me?” Now obviously to a much gentler degree, but am I wrong? I’ve said this time and time again - GPA isn’t the only element that goes into an admission decision. You mention all of the extracurriculars/intangibles that should have made your application stand out, but the person you don’t know who got in with a lower GPA doesn’t get the same benefit and is instantly assumed to have had a weaker profile overall? There’s clearly a double-standard here.</p>

<p>Like I said, everyone’s stressin’ and this thread was probably an impulse, but think. The possibility of getting in (via an appeal) is still very much alive, take advantage of it rather than throwing fists at walls. We’ve all been there.</p>

<p>i am pretty sure i am going to SIR to UCSD. i am not stressed over UCLA at all. immature as it is, i just wanted to get into UCLA for bragging rights. i just figured that if the counselors at my school (OCC, that transfers more students to UCs then any other cc) said i was a stellar applicant and i still got rejected then the reason why would be something future applicants would want to know.</p>

<p>day 1 of cc i knew i wouldn’t be able to complete all the pre reqs but i thought a high GPA would offset that. Im sure a lot of people thought the same thing. maybe the missing pre-req was the case this time or maybe it wasn’t. who knows? but i thought future applicants would like to know.</p>

<p>i didn’t mean to talk down on the people who got accepted but if on paper one applicant looks better than the other and the better one didn’t get in than there must be something less apparent about the other applicant that must be pretty critical and future applicants probably wouldn’t want to overlook that</p>

<p>anyways i have been in class all day and will be till 9:30 so i doubt i will have time to call. i honestly don’t care THAT much. maybe if i didn’t spend this much time on the internet in class i’d have been accepted to UCLA</p>

<p>cool. UCSD is also a very prestigious school. congratulations! if you applied to CAL, we will all know about that on friday. good luck dude. and i did not think this was a negative post at all.</p>

<p>for further reference, last year there were 105 AE transfer applicants and 17 were admitted. average gpa applied was 3.23 and average admitted was 3.76</p>

<p>I apologize for have apparently taken your post the wrong way, but your initial post sounds more like a rant to me than a service to the community as you’re suggesting. But I digress.

I think most people are aware that a combination of high GPA and major coursework completed is important, so to compromise one for the other is a gamble that you should’ve been aware of. ASSIST.org clearly states at the top of the articulation agreement what the school’s looking for.

How are you determining what’s “on-paper?” You can’t see other people’s full application (which, I’ll add, is “on-paper”), you’re just going off of what little bit of information people have told you about their profile (i.e. their GPA). Nevertheless it’s still very clearly listed on each respective’s schools admission pages what kinds of things they’re looking for in applicants, so it’s hardly a mystery in my opinion (not to mention resources like this site where you can pretty much find out anything).</p>

<p>Anyway, if you’re legitimately happy with UCSD, then congrats to you. Don’t let the fact that UCLA’s “better known” take anything away from what you’ve already accomplished - UCSD is slowly making its way to the top of the UCs (which it already is) and already surpasses UCLA in certain fields. Bragging rights mean nothing to the well-informed who are very much aware of how prestigious UCSD is.</p>

<p>For the OP,</p>

<p>I know you’re disappointed that you didn’t get to UCLA and its unfortunate cause your resume look really impressive. You could always try to appeal and it doesn’t hurt. But look at this way, like the poster above you, just be proud that you accomplished so much and come from so far. UCSD is a great school so don’t look at that school anything inferior to UCLA or anything. Beside the reputation is not all that big of a margin. Congrats and good luck on your studies and your career.</p>

<p>maybe u didnt take enough prerequisites for your major courses? idk…</p>

<p>did u have any w’s?</p>