<p>i highly doubt they're not interested in amherst and williams - the two best liberal arts colleges in NE/US.</p>
<p>the college admissions forums say that LAC's weigh legacies much less than ivy's</p>
<p>ONE post....now two. I sniff a troll. Funny post actually.</p>
<p>Those numbers are incorrect across the board. Exeter has a College Counseling site that is password protected for seniors and when I just checked it, all of the numbers were higher than what the OP has in his post.<br>
Some of the colleges accepted twice as many as the OP has listed.</p>
<p>Coke or Pepsi?</p>
<p>If you run enough taste tests, eventually you will get 50 in a row favoring either drink.</p>
<p>If you pick the right list of schools over the right timespan, either Andover or Exeter can be made to look better.</p>
<p>There's lies, d-a-m-n-e-d lies, and then there's statistics, if I remember the quote correctly.</p>
<p>Remind me again the point of this thread?</p>
<p>Matriculants is the discussion NOT how many were offered the opportunity to matriculate.</p>
<p>"At least by College placement, Andover does significantly better job with the top colleges. I chose the colleges that are my top personal choices."</p>
<p>I am sorry, if I misinterpreted you, I thought you were saying that the Ivies were your preference.</p>
<p>hazmat, you beat me to it. i too sniff a smurf..</p>
<p>As you all know you have to compare the same data.</p>
<p>These numbers are not admitted numbers, they are matriculated numbers.</p>
<p>If you look at the admitted vs matriculated numbers for Andover 2004 (I don't haven't seen anything more recent), it's also quite interesting:</p>
<p>Harvard - 22/17 (77%)
Yale - 15/10 (66%)
Princeton - 12/7 (58%)
Brown - 25/15 (60%)
Columbia - 13/10 (77%)
Stanford - 10/3 (30%)
Amherst - 6/3 (50%)
Williams - 6/3 (50%)
Hopkins - 29/9 (31%)
Georgetown - 20/7 (35%)</p>
<p>I also doubt that Andover would be putting up numbers that are wrong on their site. And those numbers precisely match the numbers in Peterson's.</p>
<p>Anyway, I don't go to either school so I have no axe to grind. I'm just trying to compare the 2 places to my school, which has good track record but nothing close to A/E. Just want to see how we stack up.</p>
<p>Chacha, ivies are my preference. But I was just saying that I'm not in any way saying that others should feel the same, or that you can't get great education outside the ivies.</p>
<p>I just found the data, and found it interesting. I thought others might too. If you don't, don't waste your time with it.</p>
<p>I just am finding some of it inaccurate given that I have a child who graduated last year and is currently at an Ivy.</p>
<p>Drnancie,</p>
<p>Can you let us know? I'm not saying these data are accurate, but I found them in what appeared to be reliable sources. If they are wrong, can you tell us how? I'd love to know?</p>
<p>Can we just lock this thread or get rid of it? Regardless of what the original intent of the thread may have been, it's getting a little out of control and nasty. </p>
<p>I believe that Andover and Exeter both due an amazing job preparing their students for college and life in the real world. Both schools matriculation lists vary from year to year; a lot can depend on the number of legacies and athletes that are attending at the time. </p>
<p>Prospective students, if you are looking at this thread, don't decide b/w Andover and Exeter based on matriculation numbers at top colleges. Visit both campuses, talk to some students, make a pros/cons list (as Blairt did nicely in an earlier thread). </p>
<p>Good night</p>
<p>Most matriculation threads end up in this pointless quagmire.</p>
<p>bigblue09 - i had a question for you. (rhymes.)</p>
<p>i heard many '09ers at andover have been leaving (6 within the first few weeks) because they can't hack it.. do you notice this? a significant number of our 2009 class not able to handle andover? more than 2010 or 2008? thanks.</p>
<p>Andover or Exeter matriculation rates @ HYP are not even on top 5 among prep schools.</p>
<p>I've compiled some stats from what I found on the web...hope this helps. </p>
<p>Exeter vs Andover Matriculation 2004-2006</p>
<p>School Exeter Andover</p>
<p>Amherst 8 1
Boston College 9 11
UBC 1 0
Brown 19 30
UCLA 2 1
UC Berkely 8 7
Cal Tech 2 2
Cambridge 1 0
Carnegie Mellon 15 4
U Chicago 15 13
Columbia 22 27
Cornell 16 31
Dartmouth 29 14
Duke 17 15
Georgetown 32 11
Harvard 37 52
Johns Hopkins 22 16
MIT 14 22
McGill 10 8
NYU 28 21
Northwestern 13 13
Oxford 2 2
UPenn 33 34
Princeton 34 19
USC 4 18
Stanford 20 17
Tufts 18 10
Wellesley 16 6
Yale 23 32</p>
<p>If you completely take OUT the legacy and athletic admits to these colleges then what are you really left with? Probably not that much better matriculation than any other school. Take a close look at what you are measuring. None of us can completely know what any of it means.</p>
<p>Exeter and Andover both do wonderfully at colleges, and to restate what some others said, there's a lot that goes on behind closed doors--legacies, recruits, etc. Once you reach that level though, such a miniscule difference doesn't matter.</p>
<p>Blair: are you talking about the McHale article in the Phillipian? That was mostly a beginning-of-the-year thing...some kids just didn't fit in. It's not that unusual you always have some kids that leave. '06 had a ton, it just was never as concentrated.</p>
<p>I raise two issues.</p>
<p>First, the attendance at the four listed schools does not declare the success or failure of college admissions for any given school. As a lover of LAC's, I would probably have greater respect for schools which displayed incredibly high batting averages (and placements to) with Pomona, Amherst, Carleton, Grinnell, Williams and Davidson . . .</p>
<p>Second, to Exeter's credit is one great statistic for 2006. I think 17 went to Princeton -- not the 14 mentioned -- but with either number the feat is impressive. Princeton's class is about 50% valedictorians. Exeter's 2006 valedictorian attends Oxford. That means Exeter supplied no less than 14 of the approximatle 600 "non-valedictorians" to the class of 2010. Princeton really bent the statistics down for that high valedictorian-percentage by accepting such a large number of "Non-V's" from Exeter -- which I would presume means that it has high regard for Exeter. </p>
<p>By the way, I do not think Andover has any less prestige. I would presume it ruins statistics at many colleges as well -- e.g. the often publicized percentage of top 5% or top 10% in their class statistic used by colleges.</p>
<p>Father of the border, your opinion on LAC's is refreshing. I would take any of those school's you mention over many of the ivies and other high recognition schools. If you want to go to Med school check out Holy Cross, Davidson and Juniata.</p>