<p>TomTheCat, last year 350 students matriculated in Andover. Was that significant over-enrollment? How reliable is your information about the size the application increase and the decrease of the applicants that’ll be admitted? Not to be argumentative - just trying to get a little more information.</p>
<p>Very significant over enrollment - the admissions office seeks to enroll a freshman class of 200, add 50 new lowers, 25 new lowers, and 20 new seniors (including PGs). If you look at it like that, Andover matriculated over 50 students more than it intended; Andover, like other schools, most likely banked on the economy negatively impacting yield. In this case, however, the need blind policy compounded by the economy did exactly the opposite and Andover hit a record Yield of 78%. Exeter, in contrast, achieved a still extremely respectable 64%. Second-tier schools were badly hurt: Loomis achieved a yield of 34%.</p>
<p>As for my information, it’s reliable - it came straight out of the mouth of an admissions officer that the school received almost 1,000 more application. As for my estimate of how many will be accepted, take it with a pinch of salt. I only estimate that fewer will be admitted because the same factors that made Andover so popular last year still apply and in fact have been strengthened; Andover is still need blind, the economy is still bad, and, importantly, since before the beginning of this year’s admissions season, Exeter, one of if not the biggest overlap with Andover has not been need blind. I just don’t see Andover overadmitting again this year when we’re already so full. There just physically isn’t space.</p>
<p>Thank you, Tom. You are right. The school may want to avoid over admitting this year. If the yield is not as high as expected they can always pull a few up from the waitlist.</p>
<p>Seems like I remember both Deerfield and SPS overadmitting (esp girls) last year. I think the yields were really tricky to predict last year.</p>
<p>I think so too, but their yield was lower than Andover’s. It could mean that Andover was more over-enrolled than other schools, or it could mean Andover had a prediction of higher yield in the first place.</p>
<p>Isn’t Andover’s yield a bit misleading since they have a large day population?</p>
<p>So by that do you mean Andover’s high yield is “equivalent to” Deerfield’s and SPS’s relatively lower yield? I guess that makes sense, so let’s say they all had high yield last year. </p>
<p>By the way, now I remember it was you who said one of the GADES had seen a 10% decrease in applications. 
Were you right, knowing what we know now?</p>
<p>I don’t know yet. I don’t look right but I’m just reporting what I was told by a board member back in December. The only thing I will say is it wasn’t Andover and even I wouldn’t take the bet after reading some of this new info. We will soon see.</p>
<p>From what we know it’s not SPS either. And I guess you didn’t mean Hotchkiss because you said it’s one of GADES too. We’ll see…</p>
<p>Nope. Not SPS. #'s are up and acceptances will probably be in the low teens. Yield is studied and targeted, but not predictable. Day students move up every schools yield (so that hurts the SPS yield). neato is correct on Deerfield and SPS. Maybe not the schools over-accepting so much as the applicants over accepting the schools as reflected by the higher than normal yield #'s…</p>
<p>we’ll all see in 14 days…omgggggg
march is going to the longest month ever!</p>
<p>well atleast the first 10 days, lol.</p>
<p>I hope this long waiting and the madness on Cc have not driven some peple crazy already - literally! ;)</p>
<p>Plus anyone who reads the old threads can see him there. If he’s a ■■■■■ ( Im not saying you are) then he’s a bloody dedicated one.</p>
<p>my march break starts this saturday…which means that all i’m going to think about is BS.!!!</p>
<p>Benley,it’s literally drivin me crazy!! when i wake up i think about BS…when i brush my teeth i think about BS…even when im doing my tests!!!</p>
<p>I’d like to fully retract my original post, which claimed that Andover received almost 1,000 more apps than last year. I received a message from the office of admission reporting that the numbers I quoted were false. I received the numbers from someone who works in the admissions office, so I’m not sure how the numbers were so wrong. Regardless, my original source certainly was well-meaning and in a position to know application statistics, but my original message was wrong.</p>
<p>I apologize from the bottom of my heart and I’m sorry for all the applicants who were mislead by my thread. It was not at all what I intended and I sincerely hope that you will continue to view me as a reliable source of information pertaining to Phillips Academy. What follows is my communication with the admissions office - I’ve deleted parts to protect identities.</p>
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<p>Xxxxxxxx,
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We got more applications than last year but it is not even in the realm of 700. We are not releasing our final number of applications until the decision letters go out.
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Please post a retraction and I will forgive you. Xxxxxx xx xxx xxxxxxx xx xx xxxx.
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Thank you,
Xxxxxxxx</p>
<p>From: Xxxxxxxx X. Xxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:04 PM
To: X
Subject: Re: College Confidential
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Hey there,
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Ms. X said so when I calculated potential acceptance rate I only calculated with the 700… I’m sorry… How many more apps did you get than last year?
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Please don’t kill me</p>
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Xxxxxxxx</p>
<p>On 25 Feb 2010, at 11:52, “X” <a href=“mailto:x@andover.edu”>x@andover.edu</a> wrote:</p>
<p>Who told you we got 1000 more applications, Xxxxxxxx? Thats not true.
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<p>X
x
Phillips Academy
Office of Admission & Financial Aid
180 Main Street
Andover, MA 01810
tel 978.xxx.xxxx
fax 978.xxx.xxxx
[Phillips</a> Academy - An Independent Boarding High School](<a href=“http://www.andover.edu%5DPhillips”>http://www.andover.edu)
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<p>:) This is actually good news to many applicants who were scared by you earlier. Tom, I actually gave you an opportunity when I asked how reliable your information was. Thank for the retraction. Don’t worry. It happens.
I wonder what “Xxxxxx xx xxx xxxxxxx xx xx xxxx.” are? :)</p>
<p>Kisses?? haha</p>
<p>We forgive you, Tom! It’s nice that a busy BS study takes the time to post here to begin with.</p>
<p>Thank you for the correction. However, you are correct that most of the top schools have again seen increase in applications. Last year, the same happened and many of the less competitive schools saw declines. It will be interesting to see the numbers this year. (my guess would be the XXX’s were where a name would have been).</p>
<p>Guess this proves the schools do pay attention to what is said on cc.</p>