<p>“So Exeter is doing a better job of educating its students during the 4 years of high school.”</p>
<p>That seems slightly unfair to assume, don’t you think? Just because someone scores higher on the SAT doesn’t mean they are more “well-educated”. Also, where did you get that data?</p>
<p>This part goes out to Spiritual. Don’t rely on pure statistics, because, in reality, these schools are practically equal. Like I said before, and I will say again, go where you feel like you belong.</p>
<p>^^ yup-- go with the gut-- not the stats.</p>
<p>One could argue that Andover teaches the whole child including areas that are not measured by standardized tests, while Exeter narrowly focuses on easily testable areas. </p>
<p>BUT I’m not arguing that! My argument is: don’t pay attention to tiny statistical differences.</p>
<p>Both Exeter and Andover are “top tier” challenging schools that will provide an excellent education. Advice already given, such as revisit days, etc., is good.</p>
<p>I also totally disagree that statistix’s analysis is statistically valid. It’s just number crunching from disparate figures gleaned from the internet. The analysis meets NO accepted standards for validity.</p>
<p>I really encourage people to not get hung up on detailed statistical analysis. The process is more complicated than that and I believe small differences are irrelevant for any particular student. Statistics are good for making cuts. Maybe you only want to look at schools with a certain range of SAT scores. Maybe you want a school with a certain percentage of day students. Still, I advise you to be flexible with your cutoffs.</p>
<p>People can lie, statistics don’t. If stats and scores are not important, then explain to me why colleges like Harvard need your SAT, SAT II, AP scores?</p>
<p>Boy, you are going to be soooo disappointed with how college admissions work if you think so called “objective” data has any real value. At most standardized tests are a small–and I mean small-- part of a college application. Colleges look for “bands” at best. More 2400 kids get rejected than accepted in the Ivies and NESCAC schools. </p>
<p>And btw, Mark Twain once remarked “There are lies, damn lies and statistics.”</p>
<p>I suggest you read the book “How to Lie with Statistics.”</p>
<p>And I did not say statistics and scores are not important. I said small differences are unimportant for any given student. Even on the SSAT/SAT score reports it will give a range that a given score represents.</p>
<p>I hope this will help you find out technical details. [Phillips</a> Exeter Academy vs Phillips Academy Andover in Boarding Schools](<a href=“http://boarding-schools.findthebest.com/compare/119125-142319/Phillips-Exeter-Academy-vs-Phillips-Academy-Andover]Phillips”>http://boarding-schools.findthebest.com/compare/119125-142319/Phillips-Exeter-Academy-vs-Phillips-Academy-Andover)</p>
<p>As a warning to those reading the link above, be cautious. Not all of the facts posted are entirely accurate. For the most part it’s very good though.</p>
<p>I’m a current Exeter student, so I can only speak for the errors pertaining to Exeter.</p>
<p>The “Extracurriculars” portion written for both schools isn’t correct. There are many clubs that they didn’t list, and many that they listed as missing at Exeter which are thriving – “Chess Club” for example. For both schools, you’d be be better off emailing a student or going to the website to see what clubs are available.</p>
<p>Additionally, during 2012-2013, the average Exeter SAT score was 2099, as opposed to the 2074 listed on this website.</p>
<p>Another important correction is that Exeter’s faculty to student ratio is 5:1, not the 6.8:1 ratio listed on this website.</p>
<p>I didn’t check every other statistic, but those were the mistakes that stood out to me on Exeter’s side.</p>
<p>I gathered my statistics from the 2013 Exeter College Profile, which I highly recommend reading to any interested parents. It lists almost all relevant facts about the school, and displays them in a more comprehensive manner than the Exeter website does.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.exeter.edu/documents/2013_Profile_for_Colleges(1).pdf[/url]”>http://www.exeter.edu/documents/2013_Profile_for_Colleges(1).pdf</a></p>
<p>I’m not trying to be a homer to the school or persuade anyone in a certain direction; I’m just displaying some of the facts for people to say.</p>
<p>Happy reading.</p>
<p>Thank you for posting the profile for colleges. My daughter is deciding between Andover, Exeter and Hotchkiss so these are useful shorthand guides to each.</p>
<p>For those interested, this is the Andover 2012-2013 College Profile:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.andover.edu/Academics/CollegeCounseling/Documents/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2012-2013.pdf[/url]”>http://www.andover.edu/Academics/CollegeCounseling/Documents/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2012-2013.pdf</a></p>
<p>Regardless of why the above poster keeps on making new accounts and listing Andover incidents of the past several years, know that events like these are not unique to Andover. All schools have disciplinary action, and will encounter reason to use that disciplinary action at some point. All school have their share of cases like the above occasionally. As an Exeter student myself, let me tell you the above links should in no way sway you one way or another against Andover. It’s a great school, as I’m sure everyone here knows.</p>
<p>JinTrader, disciplinary cases at Exeter are no so widely publicized as to be available online – viewable at anyone’s leisure, but I promise you they exist.</p>
<p>Unless you’ve had personal experience at many different boarding schools, how can you know how the “drug atmosphere” of one compares to another?</p>
<p>I understand you may be trying to do what you consider good, educating parents about Andover’s “scandals,” but really, please, don’t speak for how it compares to other schools when you have no idea what disciplinary cases occur at other schools. Regardless of how publicized discipline is at other boarding schools, I promise you Andover is not alone in its share of scandals. Let this be the end of the discussion.</p>
<p>markalex–you make great points. One of the problems with most non-internal data is that it isn’t up to date-- the other is at at the end of the day, the choice of schools is a personal decision that comes from the instinctual feeling that you have found a “home” not from some data set. </p>
<p>As markalex can tell you, if there isn’t a club already in existence that one wants at either PEA or PA, if a couple of students can convince a faculty sponsor then it is actually not very difficult to start that club. The issue for students at either of these schools is not a lack of things to do or opportunities to pursue, but limiting those many opportunities to a manageable number.</p>
<p>It should also be noted that the reason why Andover has its incidents publicized so much is because of the fact that it has an uncensored, student-run publication. As part of the Phillipian, I can attest to the fact that we utilize this opportunity to report news regardless on its effects on the academy, knowing that people deserve to know what is going on. Also, think of it like this. Maybe the reason why there are so many relorts is because administration does a good job in cracking down on drugs, alcohol, etc.</p>
<p>WOW! Great food for thought everyone.</p>
<p>For those who sent me a PM, can’t send a reply yet as I have not reached the min 15 posts. Thanks for the input anyways.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/1434118-i-dont-know-how-fit-works-really.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/1434118-i-dont-know-how-fit-works-really.html</a>
The link above was written with choosing schools to apply to in mind, but its advice is also valid for choosing where to enroll after acceptance.</p>
<p>My two cents worth is (are??):
As noted by many posters, you can’t go wrong, so don’t sweat it.</p>
<p>Consider using nonacademic details to make the cut, some of which are enumerated in the thread I’ve posted a link to. How does your D feel about dress code? How often does each school have formal dinners? What is the computer or cell phone policy? Get each school’s student/parent handbook off the web and read them. You may find some little things or policies that sway you one way or another.</p>
<p>In the academic realm, look at the exact course offerings that your D wants to take, keeping in mind that these things change. Compare language offerings, art classes, science, etc.</p>
<p>Andover has a most impressive art gallery, with works of the masters.</p>
<p>You could not go wrong if you put the school names in a hat and drew a winner.</p>
<p>I believe Andover is accessible to Boston via public transportation (for weekend excursions).</p>
<p>Andover is closer to the Boston airport. Look at how each school handles getting kids to and from the airport. Most likely it will take less time snd money from Andover. You could ask to be put in touch with a family from each school with a travel situation similar to yours to really get the details.</p>
<p>I knew my D would be taking an airport shuttle but was surprised at the cost based on previous experience with a less rural school. However my D’s school provides special shuttles to NYC and to NY airports at times convenient for Asian students. That just doesn’t help in our particular situation.</p>
<p>Exeter is on the train line from Boston and the station is less than a mile from campus. The train station is on the T from Logan airport.</p>
<p>@CACADParent Here is a link for an interactive view of parts of the campus and some of the students. It will give you a sense of what the school is about. </p>
<p>[Andover</a> Walkabout?Admission](<a href=“http://walkabout.andover.edu/]Andover”>http://walkabout.andover.edu/)</p>
<p>IIRC the train to Exeter is Amtrak. Amtrak does not allow anyone under 16 to ride without an adult accompanying them.</p>