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but it seems like only Cornell suffers from this "is it really ivy?" OR "it's a suny school at cornell"
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<p>Cornell only suffers because individuals at Cornell brings it up. Nobody cares.</p>
<p>sebcartwright, could you please clarify what you mean by point #3 in post #17? It sounds as though you're saying that parts of the University are not in the Ivy League.</p>
<p>One other small quibble -- Cornell offers a program in Communication, not Communications. There's a difference.</p>
<p>Hey people, Ann Coulter knows perfectly well that every college at Cornell belongs to the Ivy. Her post is supposed to be sardonic in nature. No need to take it seriously.</p>
<p>On a side note, a lot of people at my current school (not professors, kids) say, "oh so you're going to like SUNY Cornell, not Cornell Cornell" <em>i'll be in CALS</em> - this drives me nuts, but i've learned to laugh it off</p>
<p>and, as my mom would say, "ann coulter talks the talk because her mind can't even stand her words"</p>
<p>what's unfortunate is that this FAR from the most ridiculous stuff she has ever written.</p>
<p>Other great quotes by Ann Coulter - Enjoy! Now think about whether or not it's necessary to defend CALS: Oh, btw - Ann Coulter went to a <em>gasp</em> public school - University of Michigan - for Law School. (it is a top 10 Law school btw)</p>
<p>Democrats always assure us that deterrence will work, but when the time comes to deter, they're against it. </p>
<p>Democrats couldn't care less if people in Indiana hate them. But if Europeans curl their lips, liberals can't look at themselves in the mirror. </p>
<p>If John Kerry had a dollar for every time he bragged about serving in Vietnam - oh wait, he does. </p>
<p>If we're so cruel to minorities, why do they keep coming here? Why aren't they sneaking across the Mexican border to make their way to the Taliban? </p>
<p>Liberal soccer moms are precisely as likely to receive anthrax in the mail as to develop a capacity for linear thinking. </p>
<p>Liberals are stalwart defenders of civil liberties - provided we're only talking about criminals. </p>
<p>Liberals become indignant when you question their patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrorists a cushion for the next attack and laugh at dumb Americans who love their country and hate the enemy. </p>
<p>Taxes are like abortion, and not just because both are grotesque procedures supported by Democrats. You're for them or against them. Taxes go up or down; government raises taxes or lowers them. But Democrats will not let the words "abortion" or "tax hikes" pass their lips. </p>
<p>The New York Times editorial page is like a Ouija board that has only three answers, no matter what the question. The answers are: higher taxes, more restrictions on political speech and stricter gun control. </p>
<p>Usually the nonsense liberals spout is kind of cute, but in wartime their instinctive idiocy is life-threatening. </p>
<p>We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war. </p>
<p>We've finally given liberals a war against fundamentalism, and they don't want to fight it. They would, except it would put them on the same side as the United States. </p>
<p>When we were at peace, Democrats wanted to raise taxes. Now there's a war, so Democrats want to raise taxes. When there was a surplus, Democrats wanted to raise taxes. Now that there is a mild recession, Democrats want to raise taxes. </p>
<p>Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America's self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant. </p>
<p>"If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democrat president. It's kind of a pipe dream, it's a personal fantasy of mine, but I don't think it's going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women. It also makes the point, it is kind of embarrassing, the Democratic Party ought to be hanging its head in shame, that it has so much difficulty getting men to vote for it. </p>
<p>"If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."</p>
<p>"I was going to have a few comments about John Edwards but you have to go into rehab if you use the word faggot." --at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference</p>
<p>"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband's deaths so much." -on 9/11 widows who have been critical of the Bush administration</p>
<p>"We need to execute people like (John Walker Lindh) in order to physically intimidate liberals."</p>
<p>The woman is an embarrassment.</p>
<p>BTW, here are some more stats by college. People keep asking about these, maybe they should be a "sticky", if somebody knows how to do that.</p>
<p><a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf</a>
<a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf</a>
<a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf</a>
<a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000001.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000001.pdf</a></p>
<p>Now she's obviously an idiot for writing this, but I think her purpose was more to try to make fun of Olbermann (god knows somebody needs to). She obviously went way over the line.</p>
<p>He's going to fry her</p>
<p>Thnaks Monydad.</p>
<p>Ann Coulter is a crazy. Don't take anything she says too seriously.</p>
<p>Funny thing is that this conversation plays right into her hand.</p>
<p>She makes absurd, untrue, outrageous claims.</p>
<p>People get outraged and refute her. </p>
<p>Those who agree with her ideology defend her because, to question her absurd statements about women not being allowed to vote or the sexuality of politicians or 9/11 victims whining, means questioning their fundamental ideology.</p>
<p>So, we all argue over what she says and we learn her name and she sells books and goes on TV because it's like watching a plane crash live.</p>
<p>To be real honest, I think both are a disgrace to their own sides.</p>
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So, we all argue over what she says and we learn her name and she sells books and goes on TV because it's like watching a plane crash live.
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<p>Applejack, I agree with you. Still, I do not think that it would be preferable for rabble-rousers like Coulter to be left unchallenged. If she were not opposed too many bumpkins in her audience would be left to believe her moronic drivel. At least if she is countered some portion of her less dimwitted readers and listeners will realize her absurdities for what they are – twaddle. Also, the more demagogues like this blowhard are shown in their true freakish light, the further they are relegated to two-bit tabloids rather than to platforms that have a semblance of credibility.</p>
<p>I love all of the words you used Colm.</p>
<p>rabble-rousers, bumpkins, drivel, twaddle, demagogues, blowhard.</p>
<p>So, is the difference in the CALS and CAS stats considered here to support or refute Coulter's assertion that CALS is essentially non-Ivy, whilst CAS is?</p>
<p>.............................cals...............cas
sat cr 25-75.........600-720..........650-740
sat m 25-75.........630-740..........670-770
act.....25-75...........27-33.............29-33</p>
<p>I will say the differences between the colleges regarding admissions were possibly more evident back when I attended, and maybe when she attended as well. Because back then the stats in the college guide books were only presented broken out by college. There wasn't even a university aggregate listed in the guide books. So every applicant at that time was well aware of whatever differences there may have been in entrance statistics among the colleges. Now that information is still somewhat available, but buried and not widely reported.</p>
<p>Also the relation of what are now called the "contract colleges" to New York State has either actually changed over the years, or has been given a lot different "spin" these days than formerly. A lot of people in my era did basically give more credence to, and open acknowledgement of, the state affiliation than seems to be fashionable on CC currently, at least.</p>
<p>When I attended there was some ribbing between people of various colleges regarding entrance stats and subject matter taught, vaguely along the unflattering lines she described. But to suggest that various people are not part of the "Ivy League", but your school is, is just laughable. The Ivy league is a sports conference, let's just go lookie at which schools the members of your hockey, football and basketball teams are in. Arts???</p>
<p>Moreover, if someone wanted to major in communications, what college should he attend to study that? A college that doesn't offer it, like Arts? Each of the specialized colleges of Cornell are at or near the very top of their respective fields.</p>
<p>Regarding the stats, the extent of the differences may have been greater when she attended, which would be her frame of reference. Or maybe not, I don't really know.</p>
<p>"I love all of the words you used Colm.</p>
<p>rabble-rousers, bumpkins, drivel, twaddle, demagogues, blowhard."</p>
<p>I did too!</p>
<p>Chendrix and Woody, thanks for noticing those words that are so well suited to Coulter.</p>
<p>Here is another that befits Ann's disruptive noggin: pinhead.</p>