<p>Mirabile–you are good! Thank you very much.</p>
<p>And on an old thread of CC, from 2008, there were similar schools–Lake Forest, St. Joe U, Susquehanna, Eckerd.</p>
<p>A more optimistic note may be found in these numbers:</p>
<p>414 Schools with space available at this time last year
288 Schools with space available this year</p>
<p>Perhaps the schools that have moved themselves off of the list have made the needed adjustments.</p>
<p>We also don’t know how many of these schools are facing big shortfalls in enrollment and tuition revenue, and how many are on this list because they’re fishing for a few last higher-stats kids to firm up their SAT/ACT medians. There are always some applicants who aim too high with their applications and end up disappointed. Some of them could still fall to some of the better schools listed here, but obviously won’t if the schools aren’t open to receiving late applications.</p>
<p>An updated version on June 26, 2012 had 446 schools listed.
[Space</a> Availability Survey Results 2012](<a href=“http://web.archive.org/web/20120626075112/http://www.nacacnet.org/research/research-data/SpaceSurvey/Pages/SpaceSurveyResults.aspx]Space”>Space Availability Survey Results 2012)</p>
<p>Agnes Scott College
Albertus Magnus College
Albion College
Albright College
Alliant International University
AMDA - The American Muiscal and Dramatic Academy NY and LA
American Baptist College
American College Dublin
American International College
American Jewish University
Anderson University
Anoka Technical College
Aquinas College
Arcadia University
Arizona State University
Art Academy Of Cincinnati
Asbury University
Augsburg College
Augustana College
Augustana College
Baker University
Baldwin-Wallace College
Bangor University
Bard College at Simon’s Rock
Belhaven University
Bellarmine University
Belmont Abbey College
Benjamin Franklin Institute of Technology
Berry College
Birminghagm-Southern College
Bluefield College
Bluffton University
Boston Architectural College
Bradley University
Brenau University
Brevard College
Briar Cliff University
Brooklyn College - CUNY
Bryant University
Bryn Athyn College
Buena Vista University
Buffalo State College
Burlington College
Cabrini College
CalArts
Caldwell College
California Baptist University
California College of the Arts
Campbell University
Campbellsville University
Canisius College
Capital University
Capitol College
Cardinal Stritch University
Carlow University
Carroll College
Carson-Newman College
Castleton State College
Cazenovia College
Cedar Crest College
Centenary College
Centenary College
Central Methodist University
Centre College
CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY
Charleston Southern University
Chatham University
Chestnut Hill College
Christian Brothers University
Clackamas Community College
Clarion University
Clarke University
Clayton State University
College of Coastal Georgia
College Of Mount St. Joseph
College of St. Joseph
College of the Atlantic
Colorado Mesa University
Colorado State University
Colorado STate University-Pueblo
Columbia College
Columbia College Chicago
Community College of Allegheny County
Community Colleges of Spokane
Compass College of Cinematic Arts
Concordia College-New York
Concordia University, St. Paul
Cornish College of the Arts
Cottey College
Crown College
CUNY Hunter College
Curry College
Dean College
Defiance College
Delaware College of Art and Design
Delaware Valley College
Dixie State Collge of Utah
Dowling College
Drew University
East Stroudsburg University of Pennsylvania
East Texas Baptist University
Eastern Connecticut State University
Eastern Illinois University
Eastern Oregon University
Eckerd College
Edgewood College
Edinboro University
Elizabeth City State University
Elizabethtown College
Elmhurst College
Elmira CollegE
Elms College
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University
Emory & Henry College
Eureka College
Evergreen State College
Fairmont State University
Fayetteville State University
Felician College
Ferris State University
Ferrum College
Fisher College
Flagler College
Florida Atlantic University
Florida Institute of Technology
Florida Southern College
Framingham State University
Franklin College Switzerland
Fresno Pacific University
Frostburg State University
Gardner-Webb University
George Fox University
Georgetown College
Goldey-Beacom College
Gonzaga University
Gordon College
Goshen College
Grace College
Graceland University
Grand View University
Green Mountain College
Greensboro College
Guilford College
Gwynedd-Mercy College
Hampshire College
Hawaii Pacific University
Heidelberg University
Hibbing Community College
Hofstra University
Hollins University
Holy Cross College
Holy Family University
Hood College
Hope College
Houston Baptist University
Husson University
Illinois College
Indiana Tech
Indiana University Southeast
Inver Hills Community College
Iona College
Iowa Lakes Community College
Iowa Wesleyan College
Itasca Community College
IUPUI
Jacksonville University
Jacobs University Bremen
Jamestown College
John Cabot University
John Carroll University
Johnson & Wales University
Judson University
Juniata College
Kalamazoo College
Keene State College
Keiser University College of Golf
Keystone College
Knox College
La Sierra University
LaGrange College
Lake Superior State University
Lakeland College
Lawrence University
Le Moyne College
Lebanon Valley College
LeMoyne-Owen College
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Lesley College
LeTourneau University
Lewis University
Lincoln College-Normal
Linfield College
Lock Haven University
Long Island University Brooklyn
Longwood University
Loras College
Louisiana State University - Baton Rouge
Loyola Marymount University
Loyola University Maryland
Loyola University New Orleans
Lycoming College
Lynchburg College
MacMurray College
Manhattanville College
Marlboro College
Marshall University
Mary Baldwin College
Marymount College, Palos Verdes
Marymount Manhattan College
Maryville University
Marywood University
Massachusetts College of Art and Design
Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts
McMurry University
Menlo College
Mesabi Range Community & Technical College
Methodist University
Michigan Technological University
Millikin University
Mills College
Milwaukee Institute of Art & Design
Milwaukee School of Engineering
Minneapolis College of Art and Design
Minnesota State College - Southeast Technical
Minnesota State University Moorhead
Missouri Baptist University
Mitchell College
Monmouth University
Montana State University
Montana Tech
Moravian College
Morehouse College
Mount Mercy University
MOUNT OLIVE COLLEGE
Mount Saint Mary College
Mount St. Mary’s University
Mountwest Community and Technical College
Multnomah University
National Louis University
National University of Ireland Maynooth
New College of Florida
New England College
New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology (New Mexico Tech)
New York Institute of Technology
Newbury College
Niagara University
Nichols College
North Carolina A&T State University
North Carolina Wesleyan College
North Central College
North Dakota State University
North Park University
Northern Michigan University
Northland College
Northwest University
Notre Dame de Namur University
Notre Dame of Maryland University
Oglethorpe University
Ohio Mid-Western College
Ohio Northern University
Oregon State University
Otis College of Art and Design
Otterbein University
Our Lady of Holy Cross College
Pace University
Pacific Lutheran University
Pacific University
Pacific University
Pfeiffer University
Philadelphia University
Polytechnic Institute of New York University
Portland State university
Queen’s University
Queens University of Charlotte
Radford University
Rainy River Community College
Randolph College
Randolph-Macon College
Regent University
Regis College
Richmond, The American International University in London
Rider University
Ringling College of Art and Design
Ripon College
Robert Morris University
Rockford College
Rockhurst University
Rosemont College
Rutgers-Camden Campus
Sacred Heart University
Saint Joseph College
Saint Joseph’s College
Saint Joseph’s University
Saint Martin’s University
Saint Mary’s College
Saint Mary’s University
Saint Michael’s College
Saint Peter’s College
Salve Regina University
Savannah College of Art and Design
Seton Hall University
Shimer College
Siena College
Siena Heights University
Simmons College
Skagit Valley College
Smith College
Somerset Christian College
South Dakota School of Mines & Technology
Southeast Technical Institute
Southern Illinois University Carbondale
Southern Illinois University Edwardsville
Southern Vermont College
Southwest Baptist University
Southwest Minnesota State University
Southwestern University
Springfield College
St. Bonaventure University
St. Catherine University
St. Edward’s University
St. John’s College
St. John’s College
St. John’s University
St. Joseph’s College New York - Suffolk Campus
St. Thomas Aquinas College
St. Thomas University
State University of New York at Fredonia
State University of New York College of Technology
Sterling College
Stetson University
Stevenson University
SUNY - Alfred State College
SUNY Canton
SUNY Institute of Technology
Susquehanna University
Sweet Briar College
Tennessee Wesleyan College
Texas Lutheran University
Texas Wesleyan University
The American University of Paris
THE AMERICAN UNIVERSITY OF ROME
The British Columbia Institute of Technology
The College of Idaho
The College of New Rochelle
The Culinary Institute of America
The University of Arizona
The University of Edinburgh
The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
The University of Oklahoma
The University of Tampa
Thomas College
Trine University
Trinity Christian College
Trinity Lutheran College
Trinity Washington University
Trinity Western University
Triton College
Truman State University
UMBC - University of Maryland, Baltimore County
Unity College
Universidad de Iberoamerica in Costa Rica
University College Dublin
University of Alabama in Huntsville
University of Alaska Fairbanks
University of Alberta
University of Arkansas at Little Rock
University of Detroit Mercy
University of Dundee
University of Florida
University of Great Falls
University of Hartford
University of Hawaii - West Oahu
University of Idaho
University of Iowa
University of Kansas
University of King’s College
University of Maine
University of Maine at Farmington
University of Maine at Fort Kent
University of Massachusetts Lowell
University of Minnesota, Crookston
University of Missouri - Kansas City
University of Missouri-St. Louis
University of Montana
University of Mount Union
University of Nevada, Reno
University of North Carolina at Pembroke
University of North Florida
University of Northern Colorado
University of Northern Iowa
University of Puget Sound
University of San Diego
University of Saskatchewan
University of South Florida
University of Texas at Dallas
University of the Arts
University of the Ozarks
University of Utah
University of Vermont
University of Victoria
University of Washington Bothell
University of Washington Tacoma
University of Wisconsin-Superior
University of WI-Stout
Upper Iowa University
Ursinus College
Ursuline College
Utica College
Valencia College
Valley Forge Military College
Valparaiso University
Vanguard University
Villanova University
Virginia Intermont College
Virginia State University
Viterbo University
Wagner College
Warren Wilson College
Wartburg College
Washington & Jefferson College
Watkins College of Art, Design & Film
Wayne State University
Waynesburg University
Webster University
Wentworth Military Academy and Collge
Western New England University
Western State College of Colorado
Westminster College
Wheaton College
Wheelock College
Widener University
Wilkes University
William Carey University
William Paterson University
William Peace University
Wilmington College
Wilson College
Windesheim Honours College
Worcester State University
Xavier University
Xavier University of Louisiana
York College of Pennsylvania
York College, The City University of New York
York St John University
Youngstown State university</p>
<p>Many, though certainly not all, state flagships have rolling admissions with final deadlines even into the late spring/summer so they technically still have space available. Scholarship and financial aid priority deadlines are generally much earlier.</p>
<p>I know that the University of Florida has a different process for admission of transfer students so they are still processing some applications.</p>
<p>Then again, there could also just be a certain amount of statistical noise here, reflecting which colleges overestimated their yield in any given year. There’s certainly a good deal of overlap in the 2012 and 2013 lists, including such notables and semi-notables as: Albion, Arizona State, Augustana (IL), Embry-Riddle, Juniata, Knox, Michigan Tech, Mills, Mount St. Mary’s, Polytechnic Institute of NYU, Rider, University of Florida, University of Kansas, and Valparaiso.</p>
<p>But there were quite a few notable and semi-notable schools on the 2012 list that aren’t on this year’s list, including: Centre College, Chapman, Drew, Gonzaga, Guilford, Hope, Kalamazoo College, LSU, Milwaukee School of Engineering, Seton Hall, Smith, St. John’s U, U of Oklahoma, Truman State, University of Puget Sound, University of San Diego, Ursinus, Villanova, and Wheaton.</p>
<p>And there were some notable and semi-notable schools new to the 2013 list that weren’t on the 2012 list, including: Beloit, Boise State, Cleveland State, Colorado Stat, Drexel, Eugene Lang, Fairleigh Dickinson, High Point University, Illinois Institute of Technology, Illinois State, Kettering, Lake Forest, Lewis & Clark, Loyola Marymount, Marquette, Missouri University of Science & Technology, Montana State, Saint Louis University, SUNY Oswego.</p>
<p>Based on these lists, I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions at all. I’d need to see longer trend lines.</p>
<p>Some schools might just not want to admit to having space.</p>
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<p>Those flagship schools … AZ … Kansas … Iowa … all have Admit rates Close to 100 %.
So that is why I am not surprised at all.</p>
<p>I am not saying if those schools are good or bad.</p>
<p>I’m just saying they are obviously having a hard time getting fannies into seats.</p>
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<p>Those flagship schools … AZ … Kansas … Iowa … all have Admit rates Close to 100 %.
So that is why I am not surprised at all.</p>
<p>I am not saying those schools are good or bad.</p>
<p>I’m just saying that they are obviously having a hard time getting fannies into seats.</p>
<p>I’m surprised SUNY Oswego is on the list. We just toured there on May 4th with my daughter who is a junior. The admissions officer told the group that there were only a few spots left for the class of 2017. We were there on a Saturday and he was warning the seniors that were there for the tour that if they waited until Monday to put it their deposit, it was likely that they would not get a spot.</p>
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<p>yes and no, some of those state schools, as someone said, will accept right up until fall for the right kid that comes along. They will take as many kids as they desire and have room…even it it means triples…and infrastructure. They are on the list year after year after year. It’s the smaller ones that miss their targets that are the most interesting.</p>
<p>momofthreeboys, I agree wholeheartedly. The bigs, having attended one, don’t phase me at all. For them and for the state missions they serve, more (right or wrong) is always better. The small ones, particularly the ones of some note, are significant data points.</p>
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<p>I don’t think it’s a problem if a small, relatively selective school lands on this list every so often. It is very difficult to estimate yield accurately, and the smaller the school the greater the odds of the estimate being off. I teach at a selective HS that usually gets it right, but we found ourselves over-enrolled by 25% one year (it was a problem - our classrooms can’t fit that many kids). If, however, one of those schools finds itself short of enrollees year after year, something is wrong. It may cost too much. It may be targeting the wrong students. It may not have competitive facilities. Who knows. I would expect that a competent administration would diagnose and address the problem.</p>
<p>MirabileDictu, I wasn’t looking at any individual schools as a sign they are in trouble per se. What was striking was the number of them who are held in reasonably high esteem who “got it wrong.”</p>
<p>It amazes me that schools ever “get it right.” Do most colleges use wait lists? I’d be curious to know how many that have wait lists are in this group.</p>
<p>To make matters worse, schools now have to figure melt rate. Melt is when a student pays deposits at more than one institution and then just forfeits it when they don’t show in the fall. It’s certainly unethical, but it isn’t illegal. Deposits should be tracked like ED admissions. If a student sends in more than one, they should automatically have all their acceptances rescinded.</p>
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<p>Well, not exactly. “Melt” can also occur when the student is accepted at school A and waitlisted at school B, pays the deposit at school A, then is accepted off the waitlist at school B after the normal deadline for acceptance of school A’s offer of admission. I don’t see anything unethical about that student’s acceptance of an offer for admission off school B’s waitlist. Neither do most colleges and universities, because they themselves use waitlists, and are both beneficiaries and victims of the practice. That’s why most of them set their own admissions deposits at a more or less token level, and don’t insist on stiffer penalties for “melt” than forfeiture of that modest deposit.</p>
<p>When I reviewed the NACAC list, I was interested in the “transfer students” column stats. Is it even feasible to apply this late for a transfer spot for next fall?</p>