Another Chances...Just Curious

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>OK so here it goes
I'm applying to 8 schools
JHU, Northwestern (HPME), Brown (PLME), Washington in St. Louis (University Scholars), Harvard, Princeton, JHU, U Mich, Case Western Reserve University (PPSP)</p>

<p>These are my stats:
SAT: 700V 720M 720W
PSAT Commended (208)
ACT 33
SAT2s Math 2 800, Bio M 770, Chem 770
GPA unweighted 4.0
Rank 1/380ish</p>

<p>Classes:
Most rigorous schedule
Will have 7 AP classes when I graduate (10 class hours), AP Micro Independent study
Bio 5, English Language 3, BC Calc, Chem, AP Macro/Micro, AP Lit, AP French</p>

<p>Recs:
French Teacher: Stellar
Bio: Even better
Counselor: Stellar/Amazing
They all know me very, very well/ good relationships</p>

<p>Essays: Really amazing, wrote about how tae kwon do changed my life and how it affects how i wanna be a doctor
ECs:
Tae Kwon Do since 7th grade, soon to be 2nd degree black belt, teach, watch over gym, judge</p>

<p>Debate Team (since 9th) President as a senior
Science Olympiad (10,11) Team is no longer this year
French Club(12)
Peer Tutoring (11,12)
National Honors Society (11,12)
CARE Comm service (9,10)
For 2 above, total comm service is like 200+ hours
Volunteered for 2 weeks at a civil hospital in India in summer of 2003
Marching and Jazz Band (9,10) Was section leader in trombones
Trombone Private lessons (9,10)</p>

<p>Awards:
National Merit Commended
Oakland County Student of Month
National Honor Roll
Who's Who of High School Scholars
JETS award (TEAMS Competition)
Honor Roll
Band Letter
Academic Letter
Did U Mich's Summer Science Academy in summer of '05
Did French 3 as an independent study so I could go from French 2 to 4</p>

<p>Oh, Asian Male, Michigan, somewhat competitive high school</p>

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<p>JHU: match
NW: match
WSL: match
Harvard: coin flip
Princeton: Coin flip
CWR: safe match
Mich: safe match
Brown: coin clip</p>

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<p>i haven't applied ED to any schools
what do u think in terms of the programs that i applied to
HPME, etc?</p>

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<p>Well HPME is very tough..2003's stats i think...</p>

<p>HPME Admitted Student Profile:
Top 1% of high school class
SAT 1 verbal 760
SAT 1 math 775
ACT composite 34
SAT II Chem. 765
SAT II Writing 750
SAT II Math 2C 785</p>

<p>Application Information:
Approximately 900-1000 sent inquiry cards
Approximately 700 received supplemental application
90% of applicants completed the supplemental application.
140 applicants were invited to interview
Approximately 60 students were offered admission to fill 50 spaces.</p>

<p>But you are definately a match still</p>

<p>Sorry I forgot to check your major...so here is revised chances based on impacted majors</p>

<p>JHU: match
NW: match
WSL: match
Harvard: coin flip
Princeton: Coin flip
CWR: safe match
Mich: safe match
Brown: coin clip</p>

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<p>and Brown?</p>

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<p>if you can get that sat up to 2250 you will be absoutely perfect.</p>

<p>brown would be a sort of half and half</p>

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<p>cus i know Brown's interview went REALLY well</p>

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<p>OH! and the intended major is biology/mathematics
possibly double major, but def. bio for premed track</p>

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<p>lets review your stats bit by bit..</p>

<p>GPA: perfect</p>

<p>SAT: slightly weak...</p>

<p>SAT 2 : very strong</p>

<p>Recommendations: perfect</p>

<p>essays: according to you, i think that looks pretty awesome too</p>

<p>EC: quite strong....not exactly a hook but certainly seems competitive</p>

<p>you would definately get into at least one if not quite a few of those colleges (excluding mich and cw..those are quite safe)</p>

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<p>that's cool</p>

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<p>I got waitlisted and eventually rejected at WashU and your credentials are much better than what I had. . . so I would say you have an above-average chance there. I would think that UMichigan is a shoe-in by virtue of you being from that state and having such an impressive high school record. Northwestern and JHU are probably both slightly better chances than WashU-- I think they take about a third of their applicants while WashU only takes about a fifth. . . </p>

<p>As for the Ivy League schools, I would say that you are just one of many thousands of extremely accomplished, over-achieving Asian pre-meds that they get every year. Congrats on making Valedictorian, but just know that a really high class rank probably won't impress too many people at these schools because they also reject hundreds of Valedictorians. At this level of competition, they are a dime a dozen. </p>

<p>All I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't bet your life on any of those places because, at first glance, you don't really look that different from every other applicant they will have. BTW, the #2 ranked student in my senior class got rejected outright at Princeton and with numbers quite similar to yours. (He got into Wesleyan and Bowdoin, though.)</p>

<p>Don't really know anything about Case Western, but I am positive that they aren't as competitive as the Ivy League, JHU, or WashU.</p>

<p>It sounds like you are aiming for an eventual M.D. so I guess that is why you are looking at WashU and Johns Hopkins. Good luck with that-I hear it's intense stuff, but we need doctors.</p>

<p>Conclusion: WashU--- decent chance (40-50%)
Northwestern--- slightly better chance (55%-ish)
Johns Hopkins--- roughly the same
Case Western/Michigan--- you'll get in (maybe some $ too)
Harvard/Princeton/Brown--- Don't hold your breath.</p>

<p>That last part may sound disheartening or cold, but it is reality. You have obviously worked incredibly hard in HS and have a very impressive record to show for it. Still, I think you would be an average student at Harvard, Princeton, or Brown and so cannot expect an above-average chance of acceptance. Maybe if you had more experiences like your two-week stint in India. . . While you have this one unusual and impressive credential, it might not be enough. There will be other applicants who have done research at the Smithsonian (like my cousin who got into Stanford), the National Science Foundation, the National Institutes of Health, etc. Just keep that it mind.</p>

<p>Also, know that the typical acceptance rates can sometimes be funny. A very impressive Nigerian student (with numbers similar to your own) at my school was rejected at Vanderbilt (acceptance rate hovering around 40%) but accepted at Dartmouth (more like 20%). Who knows? Maybe you will get into Princeton but not Hopkins. . . Regardless, I think you will have your pick of at least two prestigeous universities.</p>

<p>Best of luck to you!</p>

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<p>WOW...I was thinking the same thing with the Ivy leagues, you never know with them, but THANKS for the honest appraisal!!!</p>

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<p>do u know when we find out info from case for ppsp</p>