<p>Ok, so im a long time follower of this forum, but this is my first time actually posting something. I am a sophomore Kelley hopeful, who is transferring in this fall. After reading all of the posts on cc and listening to friends of mine that are in kelley, im still nervous about going for it. ive gotten mixed reviews from friends and cc posters. I didnt really try in high school and got a 2.7 gpa and went to a small private university in indiana. Since there, ive grown up a lot and decided to be much more ambitious. going from a 2.7 gpa/1220 SAT (M+CR) in high school to a 3.7 gpa after my freshman year of college was just enough to get my courage up to try for Kelley. Ive taken a lot of initiative in getting involved since ive been in college, and am currently a supply chain intern at Rolls-Royce in Indianapolis. I really hope I can make it into Kelley, because sadly my backup plan involves Krannert at Purdue. Im actually a highly motivated student, but im still worried about how competetive its going to be. Now that ive given you my autobiography, ill ask my question. I got one B- during my freshman year, and it was in Finite. I was wondering if the "no B-'s rule" extends to the grades in the college you transfer from? Also what do you think of my chances of making it, in general?</p>
<p>here is my first semester schedule:</p>
<p>BUS-K 201 unnassigned 3cr
BUS-C 204 Anna Easton 3cr
BUS-T 175 Paul Coulis 1.5cr
CLLC-L 120 Yara Cluver 3cr
AMST-A 100 Jason McGraw 3cr</p>
<p>I tried my hardest to get the best classes that were left once i left orientation. I also did a lot of "ratemyprofessor.com" referencing. And if you did not notice, ive only got 13.5 credit hours because im paranoid about making it in.</p>
<p>Next semester i'll be taking Bus-c 104 and Math-m119 to complete the kelley admission requirements.</p>
<p>I always recommend applicants who either think they are “at-risk” or who are certainly “at-risk” (students with grades below a B, students with a W on their transcript, etc.) to apply in the fall of their sophomore year. This is what I did last year and I could not be happier with my decision.</p>
<p>Continue to build your resume and get involved within Kelley next semester (i.e. join the Kelley Professional Network, become a Kelley Peer Tutor, join the SAS, etc.) Try to develop professional relationships with professors early on so that they can write you a recommendation. You will have to do this quickly, as the application is normally due on November 1 and you will need to give your professor enough time to right a thoughtful letter. When you begin taking classes in Kelley you’ll notice professionalism is the foundation the school is largely built upon. Keep this in mind when communicating with anyone within Kelley, either in person or via email. </p>
<p>As far as your question is concerned, could you clarify whether your credits are transferring to IUB? If so, are is your GPA transferring as well? I know some schools only accept credits and not the earned GPA. If that is the case, then earning a B- does not matter seeing as it will only show up that you earned credit for Finite. Please clarify this so I can help you further.</p>
<p>Other than that, remember that when applying in the fall you will be in a smaller applicant pool and will largely be competing against international students for admission. Having a well-written, memorable essay coupled with letters of recommendation and a strong resume can easily outweigh a sole B-. I am so happy I applied last fall rather than the spring of my freshman year. It was certainly stressful to have another semester of not technically being in the business school, but it was worth it.</p>
<p>Lastly, you’ll find that non-direct admit students to Kelley tend to have a greater appreciation for their education because of the stress they underwent to get in (no offense to direct admits!). I would not change my process of getting into Kelley for anything, it has really motivated me to do the best I can.</p>
<p>I hope this helped. If you have any more questions feel free to ask me, I love helping people try to get in.</p>
<p>Wow guys, your replies are VERY helpful. I do a lot of research on things that I can do to increase my odds of getting into Kelley, but the whole fall application thing is a great idea. To answer your questions, of all my credits that are transferring, the only actual grade that will transfer is the A that I earned in my AP psych class from high school. I just didn’t know if the board reviewed the grades that were on our previous transcripts, but you’ve already answered that for me.</p>
<p>I hope it never comes to this but between a B- and a W, which would look worse to the board? I’m guessing the W, but I don’t know for sure. </p>
<p>Thank you guys for your help. I really appreciate it</p>
<p>Your B- in finite will disqualify you from automatic admission into Kelley. Even though only the credit will transfer, and the grade won’t factor into your IU GPA, Kelley admissions will use it. They do say though that the classes at IUB matter more, so you definitely still have a good chance even without automatic admission. </p>
<p>It depends on the class, but for the traditional “weed-out” classes (K201, A100, M118/119…), Kelley admissions claims that a W is worse than a B-. They tell students in those classes after the midterm that getting a C in the class the first time would be better than taking a W, and getting an A the second time. </p>
<p>Also, you won’t be able to apply for Kelley after the first semester with that schedule because you have to have a math class (M118,M119,E370) on the Bloomington campus.</p>
<p>I understand that I cant apply for this fall’s admission. For the first year I plan on taking the following four kelley admission courses: k201, c104, c204, and m119. If i have no trouble getting all B’s and above and am doing well (which should happen), I will apply in the spring. If i cant get in for the spring, I’ll do my best in a100 and k204, and apply for the fall. Is this an ok plan?</p>
<p>I must have just be confused by what you’re referring to as applying in the Fall. </p>
<p>Is this right: </p>
<p>Right now, you’re a entering sophomore transfer student for the Fall of 2012. The earliest you will be able to “apply” for Kelley during the Spring of 2013, that means you would enter Kelley in the Fall of 2013. </p>
<p>^^That would be the soonest you can get into Kelley with your conservative (probably a good idea) Fall 2012 schedule.</p>
<p>The only “problem” I see with your plan is that it looks like you won’t be qualified to take Icore until, what, the second semester of your junior year at the earliest and possibly not even until Fall semester of senior year. This, because it appears that you are taking only two Icore prerequisites a semester. I assume you plan to take E370, L201, the two intro accounting classes, etc. after you get into Kelley. You may also find out that you run out of “easy” non-business classes to take at the rate you are planning to take Kelley Icore prerequisite classes. Maybe not a big deal if you are instate (lower tuition) and are in no hurry to graduate.</p>
<p>Also, you can take a number of Icore prerequisites at IUPUI and they will show up on your IUB record and be included in the IUB gpa. E270 at IUPUI substitutes for E370 at Bloomington, and is a much easier and less demanding alternative. It meets in summer six weeks sessions at IUPUI with only 12 class meetings, which is way less of a headache than taking it in Bloomington during a fall or spring semester.</p>
<p>Also, if you get accepted after Spring semester 2013, you might take at least two Ivy Tech classes in Summer 2013 to help catch up on your Icore prerequisites. Classes that will transfer from Ivy Tech to IUB include business law, micro and macroeconomics (not an Icore prerequisite, but good to get it out of the way early; W131, finite and calculus also transfer, but you will be doing those at IUB or in first college). Financial and managerial accounting won’t transfer from Ivy Tech to IUB, but you could take them in summer at IUPUI after being accepted to IU-Kelley, and the gpa will transfer to IUB along with the credits.</p>
<p>I’ve got a few transfer credits that are applicable to Kelley, but I’m basically just considering myself an incoming freshman. I plan on getting another internship in either Indy or Ft. Wayne next summer, so it won’t be tough for me to take few online classes at IUPUI or IPFW to sorta help me get back on track. I really want this degree from this school. Its been kind of a dream of mine since i was young, and only as of recently has it become possible for me to actually earn. So I’m pretty much ok with graduating late; I really just want to focus on getting in first. To apply for admission into Kelley, I need to have between 26 and 70 credit hours. After this semester, I will have 45.5 credit hours, which would mean that if I would endup applying for fall, i’d only be able to take 24.5 total credit hours in my spring 2012 and fall 2013 semesters. Would the board look down on my application for not taking a full/more average of a workload?</p>
<p>I don’t have any reason to think you are worried about M119, but if you are, could you possibly retake finite? I haven’t taken an algebra based math class since the junior year of high school, and community college M119 has been a huge struggle for me this summer. I’m someone who gets an A in every class typically, and i’m legitimately struggling to even pass this class to get credit for it. </p>
<p>I’m just thinking that it might be risky to take M119 after going without algebra for so long.</p>
<p>I was going to retake finite! but my orientation advisor told me that I can’t… but she was EXTREMELY unhelpful and just a really angry lady. can anybody tell me if I’m for sure not allowed to retake finite at iu?</p>
<p>Kelley should change the new bulletin they just published two weeks ago, which says only six credits correspondence/online/etc. will be accepted, and no Icore prerequisites will be accepted online (pps. 44-45). They have done an extremely poor job with their bulletins and other basic info that every student needs the last couple of years, so I guess it is nothing new for them to make glaring mistakes in Kelley sources that you used to be able to trust.
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<p>I don’t know if I have ever seen an Icore prerequisite listed in the IUB schedule as having an online section (have seen a lot of them for IUPUI, but not IUB), so maybe this is a sign that IUB will start offering them.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if I’d be able to retake finite to meet the requirements for the math portion of Kelley admission courses, even though I have transfer credit for it?</p>
<p>I see this on page 43-44 of the bulletin you posted. </p>
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<p>Last year was a disaster with the bulletins, but that seems to be consistent with the email I posted earlier. They’ll accept online courses for required courses, but they must be within the framework of a semester.</p>
<p>Anybody,
Because it would be easier than taking m119 at IU, I would like to take m118 on the IUB campus to meet the math admissions course requirement. The only problem is that I have already taken finite at another institution last fall, and have transfer credit for m118. I was just wondering if I would be allowed to take finite over, but this time on the Bloomington campus in order to meet the kelley math admission requirement. I’m not asking for opinions, I just need to know if this is an option.</p>
<p>I think it has been demonstrated on here that nobody knows the answer to that question. IU has no rule against retaking a class, but I’m not sure if Kelley would accept that. Have you emailed Kelley admissions? I imagine they would get back to you with a clear answer.</p>
<p>Hello
I have a question
Rn im a freshman at IU and i have some concerns applying to Kelley
This fall semester i did really well, took all non business related courses, but i ended up with 1 A 2 B’s and 1 C+ in biology and i have a W on M211 </p>
<p>Im trying to apply to kelley after spring semester
Im about to take 16 credits
These r the classes</p>
<p>Econ201
K201
M118
C104
T175
W131</p>
<p>Is that too much for spring semester?</p>
<p>And will i be able to get into kelley if i do really well second semester and have the C+ and the W?</p>
<p>Im really worried right now and stressed out</p>