Does anyone know what caused her to pass out? Is this insight into him possibly drugging woman like Cosby did? Surely he did not have his way with her to such an extent that she passed out? Is that even possible? I am assuming he did not beat her into a coma but rather something else caused it.
Which Link is it to the article again?
And how the hell is that even explained away when you call maintenance and say there is a naked woman passed out in my office that I need removed? WTH!
From what I read, Lauer didn’t call maintenance to “clean up” – her had his administrative assistant take that poor woman to the nurse. That assistant (Matt Zimmerman?) has also been fired for sexual harassment.
@fractalmstr Perhaps they don’t want to bring up their experiences in the distant past and decided that the last 20 years were good. It is like picking a scab off a wound. I would only do this on my schedule not the world’s. The second a women mentions this the self judging and second guessing begins.
Not about you-
I have a relative who was saying that harassment is all overblown and he wasn’t going to believe it until he had all the details. Why would any woman put him in the role as judging if a case met his definition. We all stayed quiet and told him to stop talking and start listening to the woman… He pushed back. I pushed back harder and my mom jumped in to change the topic.
@fractalmstr Well it should be the thing of fiction that this guy could be so evil. I could barely believe it too.
I don’t follow celebrity gossip at all. I never watch Entertainment Tonight or other similar shows. Yet I remember hearing that Matt Lauer was a sleaze and a “womanizer” years ago.
So where’s the story of a sex dungeon and trap door? I musta missed it.
From what I read in the NY times article is he had a button under his desk (as did others) for security reasons.
The new accusation is anonymous (at this point anyway) stemming from a seeming relationship starting in 2014.
The other two accounts are over 15 years old. One being Matt Lauer told her she was “no fun”.
And the rest of the staff said he was professional.
Nothing is ever as it “seems” lots of supposition about this and that going on. Bottom line is things are alot better now than 30 years ago when it was a compliment to be told to your face your had “balls.” Now it probably gets said behind your back. No one does that to your face anymore, but we’re along,long way from some women being able to be straight and direct with men. If you go to meet a boss in a hotel room (which by the way no one should do man or woman - offer to meet in the bar or some public place etc.) and if your coworker is in their underpants say “excuse me I’ll wait in the hallway while you get dressed and slam the darn door, call HR and tell them you didn’t appreciate it and would they please handle it” Do I think some people, and this is not just men, try to take advantage of other people, but goodness we all need to be able to stand up for ourselves - that’s so basic kindergarten playground I sincerely don’t “get” some of these stories. There’s a world of difference between not subjugating yourself and being taken advantage of because you are a child, or disabled, or mentally incompetent.
But really - these guys are getting fired. End of story. I presume that the entire reason some of these old stories get dredged up and brought to the public’s attention is to exactly that - get these guys fired. It works. It’s alittle passive aggressive and perhaps years or decades late to the game, but if that’s not the point (to get them fired) what is? Nobody disagrees that harassment in the workplace is unacceptable. I don’t think it’s any secret to anyone who has been IN the workforce for 30-40 years how it all goes down. But I also think most people in the workforce will say that it is much better now than it was 30-40 years ago and I think that it is incredibly naive to think that for every man taken out of the workplace for grievances a woman will step into his shoes or that Ann Curry will come back to triumphantly take Matt Lauer’s place. Only in the movies folks.
Oh please @gouf No one mentioned a trap door. How many people have you been with who have passed out and required emergency medical services? NBC said the photographical evidence that they reviewed was damning. So certainly not all staff thought he was professional unless he is a professional creep.
LOL there is photographic evidence and Lauer himself is on record stating he feels “embarrassed and ashamed.” But yet posters still want to justify and convolute. Let him speak for himself.
Remember, it’s not a witch hunt if witches are real.
I did ask for a link to more sordid details. I’ve obviously missed a few.
“Apparently these rape dungeon buttons are a thing.” from a CC’r. Just wondered where THAT came from.
“Some of what is being said about me is untrue or mischaracterized, but there is enough truth in these stories to make me feel embarrassed and ashamed. I regret that my shame is now shared by the people I cherish dearly,” Lauer said."
Actually quite a lot of people disagree, which is why businesses protect high powered rainmakers when they are accused.
Another way to look at it - if ML has allegations dating back 15 years ago, think about the career years he shouldn’t have had in the first place. He had made probably millions in the past 15 years that he could have lost.
Don’t be afraid to name names. It was me. I say that the hidden button that allowed Lauer to lock his door and rape a co-worker creates a rape dungeon and is therefore a rape dungeon button. Other men have the same button at their desks, and no doubt some of those other men are using that button to rape underlings.
^I thought you nailed it with “rape dungeon button.”
“and no doubt some of those other men are using that button to rape underlings.”
No love for men there! (I didn’t name you because I didn’t go back through a bunch of p to find the original
We know that plenty of men are harassers and rapists. Every day one or two more powerful men are getting exposed and fired. Now that we know that some powerful men have a button that can trap women in their offices, we have to assume that some unscrupulous men other than Lauer are using it for rape purposes. You can’t possibly be advancing the notion that Lauer was the only guy who locked women in the office and whipped out his johnson. Of course other guys are doing it too.
Was it ever established that the button locked people in his office or just locked other people out?
I have a hard time believing that a technician would install a button that would prevent people from leaving his office. I mean the guy installing it knew exactly how that button would work… If Matt had specifically asked that it not be unlockable from the inside, that would raise some red flags in my head if I were the technician.
It’s also possible he installed it for active shooter scenarios.
^^It doesn’t matter one bit what the button did. Button, no button, having a button is not a harassing behavior. What you DO behind an office door is what is important. I can’t believe we’re actually having a conversation about an office button. It’s not all that uncommon if you are a potential target of a nut job. I go through active shooter training every year dating back several years now so buttons, automatic security doors and you name it are just not that unusual.