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<p>Partytime at nj2011’s house, LOL!</p>
<p>But those cups come in blue and yellow, too! Personally I would A) never be caught dead at one of my kids college campuses at a party…although S1 did invite us to one of his college graduation parties and we did stop in after dinner and congratulate all his pals before quickly moving on and B) I’d never offer alcohol to underage kids, I could get arrested in our state not sure about the kids’ college state laws but err on the side of caution and C) I thought I was a pretty cool mom until one of my kids informed me that the band I liked was the “favorite” of mini van driving soccer moms (neither of which I am and never had been.) and D) I have personally caught out of the corner of my eye other parents (males) give my sons a beer and a wink when they’ve been home from college but it didn’t give me anymore grey hairs than I already have.</p>
<p>so you are saying they are knock off solo cups? that makes sense.
funny same kids who would love to go for brand name school would use knock off design-ed cups…</p>
<p>Bears and dogs, what in the world are you talking about? Cheap red plastic cups have been a staple at every drugstore and supermarket in the country for at least the last 20 years.</p>
<p>I use them for orange juice, myself.</p>
<p>Years ago, before I had children, I defended a law suit in which the red cup figured prominently. Two men got into an altercation on their way out of a sporting event. One of them, a supporter of the losing home team, took umbrage at the other when he high fived another patron in support of the winning visitors. He allegedly handed his red Solo cup to a bystander, ran at the other man and beat the bejeezus out of him. I represented the food vendor at the venue, which served both alcohol and soda in those cups. Nobody ever found the hitter or his cup. I won the case by getting the plaintiff’s mother to admit that the perp ran “straight at” her son and was not stumbling or staggering so there was no proof he was drunk. Ever since then, I have drunk my Diet Coke in a red Solo cup.</p>
<p>As for the OP’s situation, I would discuss it with my son in general terms without letting on that I have seen these pictures. I would be concerned about this woman because she seems to have no boundaries. In my town, there was a soccer mom who worked as a lunch lady. She was the “cool” mom who gave the jocks alcohol. She was also a pedophile who had sex with several of the boys. She wound up in jail.</p>
<p>On the issue of underage drinking, I would be LIVID if an adult gave any of my underaged children alcohol or beer. There is alcoholism on my H’s side of the family and my kids all know they may have the gene for it. My oldest son was recently 21 and while I can no longer stop him from drinking, I know that he is aware of the dangers for him particularly. He is also aware that his gf’s dad died at 47 from alcohol related causes (he was arrested while drunk and had an “accident” while in custody that led to a coma and death).</p>
<p>on related note, I went to P weekend at s’s top LAC, parents were drinking A LOT, and playing beer pong. this was odd to me, we spent short time relaxing in basement of frat house watching baseball on large screen TV, my s’s frat brother’s dad was quite drunk.</p>
<p>in kind of ironic twist, my s and I talked about concern that the dad would drive self back to his hotel. we offered the dad a ride which he turned down. I was concerned for his safety and what a poor role model he was to his own son and ALL the other fraternity young men. as far as my own s, I knew he enjoyed a couple of beers at parties, and also believed he had better judgment than this father. this is a college with large Greek system, and from my s’s observation a significant number of kids who seem to drink irresponsibly getting into trouble, alcohol poisonings, dui’s etc.</p>
<p>DonnaL and whom it may concern
check your red cups at hand. who are the maker of those cups?
I knew there are knock off chapo ones. but quality and spirit are not there.
[Solo</a> History](<a href=“http://www.solocup.com/solo-history]Solo”>http://www.solocup.com/solo-history)
now scroll down to 1970s, when Solo introduced THE RED CUP.
look, if it was laptop computer or pair of sneakers, people would be more choosey, aren’t they?
like, have you ever noticed differences?
of course totally off topic, I just had to speak for legit red cups that worthy of elite frat houses…</p>
<p>The secret is to get cups that are red, white, and blue. Then anybody criticizing you for drinking from one can be dismissed as unpatriotic.</p>
<p>Surprised by some posters responses regarding anger at the other guys mother. This is college and the OP needs to make these choices. This is not middle or highschool with mother calling another parent to tell them off. I just can’t imagine any parent having a conversation like this with their kids friends parents…it sounds very odd.</p>
<p>I understand the distinction between taking offence at another parents’ encouraging alcohol consumption in high school and the same parent offering it to the kid a year later in college but legally speaking, it’s a distinction without a difference. IOW, it’s just as illegal for an 18 year old to be drinking as it is for a 17 year old. That said, I agree that it’s really too late to actually be confronting said parent if they offer your college aged child alcohol, although anger at that parent is justified, IMO.</p>
<p>I just can’t personally understand the attitude on the part of some parents that college kids will drink and that it’s ok with them. Yes, it was legal to drink at 18 when I was in college; so what? It seems to me that it’s a dangerous business to send the message to kids in their late teens that they should only observe the laws that they consider appropriate and then complain when the college decides to “make an example” of them in one of the (rare) crackdowns on underage drinking. </p>
<p>I personally don’t agree with the ridiculously low speed limit on the road leading to my neighborhood but if my child speeds there and gets a ticket, he understands he will suffer the consequences.</p>
<p>Joblue, we do indeed live in a hypocritical society in which it is easy to pass laws raising drinking ages when the vast majority of folks in reality do not want those laws to be enforced. So, we then do get the rare case in which the law is enforced. Why not just have the laws match what we as a society really want? </p>
<p>While I detest the hypocrisy, I would urge kids to make their own educated assessment of the consequences of their actions. I believe marijuana should be legalized but would suggest that my kids not smoke because the consequences of being caught (even though the probability would be low) could be costly. </p>
<p>I think it is a bit odd to have a mother interfering at all in social engagements, but I doubt this is going to have much effect on a college age boy unless, per Pizzagirl’s example, she is also sleeping with him. That seems unlikely here, so I wouldn’t otherwise worry about it.</p>
<p>“The talk needed is with your son.” I agree with this.</p>
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<p>Then we as a society shouldn’t pass hypocritical and IMNSHO, unconstitutional laws which effectively creates a group of second class citizens*. If we want to avoid the latter serious issue, we should make minimum drinking laws the same age as legal adulthood or raise legal adulthood age to 21. </p>
<p>If we want to choose the latter, however, that also means we should also raise the minimum age for selective service/military service and other responsibilities to 21 for consistency/fairness sake. </p>
<p>Not a fan of these hypocritical and unconstitutional laws…especially considering recent history. </p>
<p>Ken Burns has a good recent documentary about Prohibition on PBS which covers some of these issues. </p>
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<p>Not a good parallel, IMO. Prohibition banned alcohol consumption for everyone; current drinking laws merely delay the time for legal consumption.</p>
<p>As to your other point, I’d have no problem with delaying the age of adulthood to age 21. It’s probably different in other cultures and earlier times in our own culture, but I don’t honestly think the vast majority of 18-20 year olds are remotely qualified to be considered adults regardless of what the law says. Given that research shows that the areas of the brain dealing with impulse control and decision-making aren’t finished developing until ages 24-25, it seems like a bad idea to pretend that any 18 year old is qualified to sign a contract. Look at all the anecdotal evidence on this forum alone concerning the problems college freshmen get themselves into.</p>
<p>I do believe that at least some car rental companies refuse to rent their cars to drivers under 22. Are they entitled to discriminate based on age? Why is drinking so important and desirable that people can’t wait a few more years? Unlike fossil fuels, we won’t be running out of beer in the forseeable future.</p>
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<p>So maybe we should consider raising the minimum age of legal adulthood/citizenship to 24-25 with all of its associated privileges and responsibilities…especially voting for our political leaders or joining risky occupations such as the military or volunteering in the most dangerous places for humanitarian causes. </p>
<p>Not sure most 18-23/24 YOs would go for that…or more importantly…the US military and the citizens they are assigned to serve on their behalf. </p>
<p>I know several former and current members of the military who’d feel deeply insulted at the implications that they’re not mature enough for adult responsibilities…including several former NCOs who were combat squad leaders at 19-20 in wars ranging from WWII to the current wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. There’s have also been some military officers who led infantry units and flying expensive aircraft in combat who were under 21. I also know some former peace corp/city year volunteers who’d feel the same after leading/designing various projects to assist others in neighborhoods/regions/nations torn apart by wars, poverty, disease, and random violence at the same ages. </p>
<p>IMHO, if one is considered old enough to risk one’s life to serve one’s country in the military or other high risk services…one has more than earned the rights to full privileges of citizenship…including the right to drink. </p>
<p>I say this as someone who was a practical teetotaler in college and still only drinks on a seldom social occasion. However, I feel it is wrong on principle, unconstitutional, and unAmerican to treat 18-20 year olds as second-class citizens. Especially when many are risking their lives to protect our country and/or in service to larger humanitarian causes both in our country and abroad. </p>
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<p>Car rental companies are private entities whose managers can set whatever age limits they see fit so long as they do not violate discriminatory regulations against protected classes. The government at every level cannot and IMHO should not be allowed to do so if we believe in equal standing under the law for every US citizen. </p>
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<p>Much of that is IMHO due to a mix of bad luck, excessively low expectations of maturity US society has towards adolescents/young adults, and overprotective micromanaging parents who didn’t provide enough opportunities and leeway to acclimate their children to learning how to cope as independent adults before they go off to college. If a society expects immaturity from its adolescents/young adults…it has a tendency to become a self-fulfilling prophesy.</p>
<p>“Much of that is IMHO due to a mix of bad luck, excessively low expectations of maturity US society has towards adolescents/young adults, and overprotective micromanaging parents who didn’t provide enough opportunities and leeway to acclimate their children to learning how to cope as independent adults by the time they go off to college. If a society expects immaturity from its adolescents/young adults…it has a tendency to become a self-fulfilling prophesy.”</p>
<p>^This.</p>
<p>Since when should the law tell us what is right and wrong? They merely tell us what is legal and illegal, which is hardly the same thing. The U.S. was formed by a people determined to defy what they believed were unjust laws. If we raised our children to obey all laws without question, how would they ever be able to recognize an unjust law. I would be proud of my children if they were arrested for breaking an unjust law as many civil rights protesters were in the 60’s. I want them to be cognizant of the law, to understand what risks they take if they break it, but not to follow laws simply because punishment may ensue for breaking them. Breaking unjust laws is a long respected American tradition: the original Boston Tea Party and Thoreau’'s refusal to pay taxes that would support the Spanish American War are celebrated acts of defiance.</p>
<p>That said, I would not be so proud if their protest was to become intoxicated in a public park to highlight the injustice of age restrictions on drinking. If they break the law for personal benefit that is far less likely to be in pursuit of a morally defensible position than if they break the law to try to help others. To me, the legal age of drinking argument is unimportant. </p>
<p>The odd thing here is why a parent might be involved in decisions about drinking with someone else’s child. Even if there were no age restrictions on drinking at all, I would find that strange since whether someone else’s child drinks would not seem to be a legitimate concern of an adult. I suspect there might be some misunderstanding of what is happening.</p>
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<p>Agree with almost everything said above with two exceptions.</p>
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<li><p>The minimum legal drinking age as it stands now is a remnant of the Prohibition mentality…except it has been foisted on a group of young adults who aren’t considered a serious constituency by the politicians and older adults and is IMHO…one symptom of the increasing trend of the infantilization of the adolescent/young adult in US society. </p></li>
<li><p>Minor friendly correction about Thoreau. He was protesting the US-Mexican War in the late 1840s…not the Spanish-American war.</p></li>
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<p>Thank you. I am notorious for being about half-right a third of the time on the facts. Maybe it was Twain who was angry about the Spanish-American War.</p>
<p>hello
I had a friend who took me to Costco (you can’t even get inside if you don’t have the card, or with someone with the card) and saw THE CUPS!!
Kirkland store brand, they got nerve to call it “signature red cups” 18oz 240 cups for $11.89
unit price per 100 count $4.959</p>
<p>Solo does sell cups at Costco but not the red one, this way not to compete with Costco store brand, Kirkland.
16oz cups in assorted pink-ish red and green see thru colored plastic
152 count $7.99 makes unit price per 100 count $5.257</p>
<p>I must admit, Kirkland imitated Solo’s design religiously, and it got hold 2oz more, and still cheap!!</p>
<p>Could anyone tell me how’s in BJ’s or Sam’s?</p>