<p>The 80s must have been quite different than today’s environment. Simply stated THIS century has not been kind to Antioch. Events such as upping the ante from a Michael Moore to even more shocking choices such Abu-Jamal Leslie Feinberg had to start coming at a price. </p>
<p>There is nothing for someone to develop and an offering a platform or extremism, as long as one can afford it through sufficient support and … interest. There is nothing wrong in believing that a “Renewal Plan” could offer a saving grace, but again as long as you can convince candidates that the school and its leaders will be better at it after a long series of resounding failures. </p>
<p>It would take real special individuals to hedge their future on such iffy proposal. Seriously!</p>
<p>I’d be leery of going to a school that might go out of business. OP needs to do whatever is in his best interest, but if it were me, I’d find some other way of affording a college education (2 years at CC + transfer to state U), or incur some manageable amount of debt at a private.
It’s tough to keep explaining to employers that they can’t confirm your college degree because the college is longer there. What do they do for in those situations I wonder?</p>
<p>One issue that hasn’t been brought up yet is the fact that before Antioch went under, it split into Antioch College and Antioch University, a for-profit school. IMO I would not want my degree to be associated with a for profit school that heavily advertises (at least in the LA market). The OP has high stats and an excellent gpa. I would suggest looking into need blind, full need schools, or privates known for giving good merit aid to their best qualified students. </p>
<p>I’d recommend the op check out the UC-Merced sub forum as it details what some of the first students at a new school had to go through. But there are a few key differences: the students knew Merced wouldn’t shut down, the entering class was substantially larger than Antioch’s, and the school didn’t have to worry about being able to afford basic upkeep. </p>
<p>Again, I strongly believe that there are hundreds of better options out there, even when considering OPs finances. Btw Op, what’s your home state?</p>
<p>I am so glad this thread was started. I had encouraged dd14 to look into this school as I heard that they had “free” tuition for those up to a certain year. I was under the impression that the school was up and running and everything was fine.</p>
<p>Hmmm, it looks like UA Huntsville reduced the scholarships and raised the GPA thresholds, so it may not be as attractive to the OP. The maximum amount appears to be in-state tuition plus most of room and board now (the out-of-state additional tuition is about $12,300 per year).</p>
<p>Thanks for all the info guys! This is really helpful. I noticed the name similarities but I didn’t know they had split off into a for profit system. </p>
<p>I live in California so I have applied to the UC system but there isn’t a ton of financial aid in the system right now so I was advised to look at private colleges. I’m thinking that this is probably not the college for me</p>
<p>“One issue that hasn’t been brought up yet is the fact that before Antioch went under, it split into Antioch College and Antioch University, a for-profit school.”</p>
<p>Its true that Antioch College operates autonomously from Antioch University. I’m not sure that its clear but the college is the non-profit organization.</p>
<p>Antioch is looking for students who are aware of rebuilding process (and all that that implies) and still have an intense, profound desire to join our community, learn from some amazing professors, and do good in the world.</p>
<p><a href=“Antioch”>quote</a> is listed as a CTCL school as well
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<p>Just for the record, CTCL.org is a college admissions advocacy group made up of college counselors. It is not an accreditation organization nor does it evaluate the quality of the schools in the CTCL. The organization does not have any direct ties to the original book. The list is permanent. A college cannot be dropped off because of any kind of bad report.</p>
<p>“CTCL is dedicated to the advancement and support of a student-centered college search process.
CTCL works to dispel publicly held myths about college choice – by hosting information sessions nationwide and coordinating outreach efforts with high school counselors.
Lastly, we support those in college counseling roles who ascribe to a similar philosophy.
Governed by a voluntary board comprised of college counseling professionals.”</p>
<p>@GolfFather… Its true. That being said, I always recommend any student thats engaged in or looking to engage in their college search to look into these colleges. These are some truly excellent schools.</p>
<p>@OHMomof2… Selectivity plays a role in determining whether a school is a CTCL school. I think they are not looking for schools that have or tout a high level of selectivity. The book and the organization are indeed separate. The book is a Penguin for profit endeavor while the association is a non profit organization comprised of some dedicated admission professionals. They also provide some great pro tips and advise about finding what school would be a right fit. The group does four large tours all over the US throughout the year; East, West, South, and Midwest.</p>
<p>If Post # 34 is in response to me - there is no connection with the book. Well, little connection. That is my point.</p>
<p>Most people, I feel, are under the impression that CTCL.org is somehow rubber stamping their approval on these schools. They are not.
Most if not all of the CTCL colleges are probably great places. I’m not saying they’re not.</p>
<p>The point is that the organization is, as I said, an admissions education and advocacy group. Nothing more.</p>
<p>In so many words, the organization lost its leader and his vision, and a bunch of amateurs took over to milk the last drops of benefits and probably profits from what once had some relevance eons ago. What’s new? </p>
<p>There are indeed gems in the list of schools. But inclusion or exclusion for the book is not a proxy for quality, and most definitely not for selectivity. At best, it is a hodgepodge of the good, the bad, and the ugly. The beauty is that anyone can place the schools in the category that fits a bias or an agenda. But remain none the wiser. </p>
<p>And, fwiw, at the time of his death, Loren Pope was a young … 98!</p>
<p>@ Xiggi, so how then, does one decide if the schools in the book OR the website are any good? I am a bit confused by it all. Is it safe to say that they schools that are listed in the book WERE of excellent quality in the past, but they MAY not be now?</p>
<p>It’s safe to say Loren Pope liked them enough to write about what he liked…that’s all I ever assume about them. If you get the book, he does explain in some depth what he thinks makes them special. The info is a little dated, though.</p>