<p>I would think there would be enough variation in college performance to almost completely neglect ACT scores and high school GPA. Like I said, they are used to predict college performance which is irrelevant for transfors. It’s like considering someone’s predicted performance in place of their actual performance. I know of plenty of cases where test scores and GPAs are completely off. One kid I know at Penn had like a 4.0 and 2400 SAT an currently has a below 3.0 GPA in Wharton.</p>
<p>Poeme, yes your logic is sound about why these things are used for freshmen. But they are also required for transfer applicants, and this is inarguable. You can argue all you want about the irrelevance of scores and high school gpa for transfers at a theoretical level, nonetheless, they are still required at the practical level of the application process. You think NO ONE looks at them or evaluates them in the context of the entire transfer pool? That is na</p>
<p>Congratulations. You have done amazing college work. I agree that your essays will be critical for admission to Penn or Michigan.</p>
<p>The earlier poster who recommended Michigan State as a potential back up plan had a great idea. It is certainly possible to transfer into Michigan, or Penn but there is still a greater than zero chance that you will not. In that case, MSU is a very good school and worth considering.</p>
<p>I was poor too. I went to MSU and got a good job from it. It may not have as much prestige as Michigan, or Penn, but there are excellent opportunities there. I think targeting MSU as a backup would be much better than giving up on college. Especially since you have been doing so well at it.</p>
<p>UPDATE: I’ve been accepted to the University of Michigan. Which I said it’s easier for Michigan students to get in. Also, I’m still waiting for my response from Penn. </p>
<p>Congratulations 1130211. That is great news!</p>
<p>Yes thank you. I just want everyone to know that I appreciate all your advice and help on this forum post. You all made good suggestions, and I tried my hardest on both applications. No matter where I go, I’m glad I have a phenomenal backup, and at least a chance to apply to one of the greatest schools in the world, the University of Pennsylvania.</p>