any chance at all

<p>I just wanted to know if i have any chance at all at Standford.I'm rising junior going to apply next year. If you guys have any advice on improving my chances dont hold back.</p>

<p>Race: Chinese (sucks to be azn for colleges lol)
Scores below
SAT Math 760 Verbal 650 Wrting 720
SAT II: Math II 770 US History 710 Chemistry(taking soon ~650)</p>

<p>GPA: 3.6 UW dont know W
Rank: top 5% probably 15out of 539
School: public, rarely ever sends grads to top schools
Taking 3AP this year and 2 online. Planning to take 5~6 next yr.
Also took 3 college courses at community college. A's in all 3.</p>

<p>ECs
Varsity Track
Varsity Volleyball
School Ambassadors
Sciencefair
Volunteered at local library 150hrs.
Planning to go out for football next yr.
Business internship during summer.</p>

<p>Major: Umm maybe economics.</p>

<p>Thanx for the help, dont want to waste money if i have no chance since I really need finaid and applying to alot of colleges for comparison of $$.</p>

<p>Hmm. Unfortunately, I don't think your chances are that great, but it's not out of the question. Your SAT scores are okay, but not great. Your GPA is also on the low side. It may make a difference that your school doesn't have a history of sending grads to top schools, but I'm not sure about that.</p>

<p>Your ECs looks decent, but not spectacular. Your essays could make a big difference if you highlight a leadership position where you learned and matured and made a difference.</p>

<p>Your SATs, GPA, and ECs are a little subpar even for the generic Stanford applicant. I'd recommend retaking the SAT, get straight As and try to show depth in your ECs. Focus on something and try to stick out. This is interesting:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/stanfordtoday/ed/9801/9801fea5.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/stanfordtoday/ed/9801/9801fea5.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>It's about the Stanford admission process -- insightful for how to prepare your application/essays.</p>

<p>That isn't actually how they read applications now. They use committees and read applications in groups. :)</p>

<p>oh yeah ... if you are worried about your ECs sucking ... it doesn't really matter that much. They take everything into context, if you live out in the middle of nowhere and don't have as many resources then they judge you on a different level than if you go to some top private school.</p>

<p>"That isn't actually how they read applications now. They use committees and read applications in groups."</p>

<p>Er, no, that's how they still do it. The process explained at the page I linked to involves a committee reading application in groups. =)</p>

<p>"They take everything into context, if you live out in the middle of nowhere and don't have as many resources then they judge you on a different level than if you go to some top private school."</p>

<p>They say they do. But really, if you have an applicant who had much more resources than a person who didn't have many resources but took advantage of the ones that were there, who would you admit? I think the person with fewer resources would outshine the one with more if he/she were to make resources.</p>

<p>From the article:</p>

<p>"Stanford's selection process can be visualized as a line with several decision points. The first point is the "sorting" point, where files are read by the most experienced members of the staff and sorted into competitive or noncompetitive piles. About half the files drop out of the competition at this point. A small fraction, about 5 percent, are deemed "clear admits" and go to the dean for approval; the rest advance to a second point, for a closer look from another reader.</p>

<p>During this second round, readers can recommend one of three things: deny, admit or "swim," a term used for applicants thrown into the pool for a later reading. All the files, including the swims and denies, move along to a third point in the process, where a senior reader either agrees or disagrees with the first reader's recommendations. At this point, a count is done to see how many students have been admitted. Then, the swim round, where files are evaluated once again, is held to determine which applicants will get the last spots. Competitive files can be read anywhere from four to six times. The dean and associate dean sign off on all offers of admission."</p>

<p>Groups read the applications now, not just one person at a time. This article is from 1998; the process just recently changed, I believe.</p>

<p>you do have a chance</p>

<p>wow thnx I guess so that means I should apply next yr??</p>

<p>You should always apply, because you have a 0% chance of getting in if you don't. :) (Assuming the $65 isn't a huge burden for you)</p>

<p>thats the probelm $65 is somewhat of a burden since I am planning to apply to about 9 or 10 schools and 4 of them are going to be waivered, I was trying to shorten the list.</p>