<p>Hi! I wanted to try this out and see if I get anything back but...
Well I'm a class of 2015 white JEWISH :) 1st generation male from Nothern VA in the very good FCPS and its time to start lookin at colleges. Wondering if anybody could give me some ideas based on the following:
Good, not great student (mostly A's/A-'s/B+'s) very involved and successful in DECA and tennis also in track and Spanish club, Backpacking club, Jr. Math League... Looking for an East Coast school with good D-1 sports, good business undergrad(destined major), with a good rep and a strong opportunity for internships... Looking to possibly end up in NYC with 1/2 of my Jewish fam.
Thanks- all help is appreciated.</p>
<p>There are almost 15,000 replies on this thread in the Parents Forum. See what ideas you can get there.
Colleges for the Jewish “B” student</p>
<p>Thanks, I’m not very religious nor interested in joining hillel I know how I could have came off that way though… I’ll take a look though thank you.</p>
<p>Are you looking for an urban or rural environment? When you say “end up in NYC” do you mean after graduation or during college?</p>
<p>Since you would like D1, I am assuming a larger university would fit the bill. And when you say D1, do you mean football specifically? This was also important to my son. Depending on where this ranks in your list of “must haves” you might consider looking in the south, midwest, Texas and California. (There is Boston College, but it is Catholic.) It seems football is bigger elsewhere.</p>
<p>You are a good student, so I might put schools like Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, Wake Forest on your list. They are not exactly on the east coast, but have D1 football! Maybe add in Georgia Tech as well. It is different from those others because it’s a tech school, so male-dominated student body. Has good business school.</p>
<p>Does your GPA show an upward trend? As a guy, schools will often cut you some slack for maturing a bit later if your grades are improving over time. What are your test scores and what can you afford?</p>
<p>Depending on your answers, you might want to look at Emory and Vanderbilt. Both DI, nice weather, east coast. Many good business internship opportunities due to an urban location.</p>
<p>Emory has no D1 football, which may be a deal killer for some. Emory (Atlanta) and Vanderbilt (Nashville) are both east of the Mississippi (Vandebilt barely) but I would not call them East Coast. I would call them South. But I still think you should consider them. Nicer weather than NY/NE!</p>
<p>If you are only in your 2nd year of HS (“class of 2015”), it’s probably too soon to predict your test scores and class rank. Absent that information, or any information about your budget (your Expected Family Contribution, and whether your family is able and willing to cover it), it is hard to offer specific suggestions. Below are a few things to consider:</p>
<p>Academic Programs
Many “national universities” and “national liberal arts colleges”, especially the most selective ones, do not offer business majors (or in some cases any undergraduate business-related programs at all). The US News “regional universities” typically do offer business programs. At some schools without business programs, you may be able to get the business exposure you want through internships.</p>
<p>Selectivity
Many colleges have become much more selective in recent years. Average HS GPAs for entering students can be in the 3.7-4.0 range even at some schools ranked outside the top 40 “national universities” and “national liberal arts colleges” lists. The highest-ranked US News “regional” schools are less selective than the “national” schools with the same rank (e.g. Villanova, the #1 Regional University / North, is much less selective than the top National universities and LACs). </p>
<p>Sports
Smaller schools (such as the National LACs) are less likely to offer many D1 sports programs. An exception is the College of the Holy Cross (with ~25 varsity sports, most of them competing in D1).</p>
<p>Size and Setting
Good internship programs + robust D1 sports programs + undergraduate business probably adds up to a larger, urban/suburban university.</p>
<p>Costs
At the most selective state universities, costs for non-resident (out-of-state) students can be nearly as high as they are at selective private schools (~$50K/year). More typically, OOS costs at state flagships are about $15K-$20K cheaper than at private schools (~$35K-$40K v. $50-$60K). However, you usually cannot count on good need-based aid packages from out-of-state public schools. In-state full-sticker costs at public flagships typically are half (or less) the cost of selective private schools (~$20K-$30K v. $50K - $60K). If commuting is an option, you can cut your costs much more.</p>
<p>Thanks for the responses guys… Yeah cost isn’t too much of a factor fortunately and also I tend to do very well on standardized tests and as a result think I’ll have a pretty good SAT score. Also regarding setting I would say most likely either urban or suburban then after undergrad/grad probably work in urban. And yeah, good D1 football is pretty important I love school spirit and stuff like that</p>
<p>Don’t count on strong SATs to compensate for relatively low GPA/rank at very selective schools. For what you seem to want, Georgetown ought to be right up your alley (unless you want to leave the DC / NoVa area). However, you’d need to improve your grades.</p>
<p>Sorry, tk2… I disagree with you about the grades. It is a CC myth that you need a freakin’ 4.0 to get into schools like that. If he says he has mostly A’s, A-'s and B+'s, that is pretty darn good. Depends on what school he is coming from (sounds like a good one) and where he is relative to others (we don’t know – top 10% would be to shoot for as you continue your high school career). Definitely do not slack off, but don’t write off good schools either because you have some B+'s. Take challenging courses in high school. Every university likes that. These top schools also like leadership. That does not mean you have to be class president. If you do stuff like camp counseling, coaching, etc. That counts too.</p>
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<p>I wasn’t trying to shoehorn you into a yeshiva. As you already know, our tribe comes in a wide variety of behaviors and beliefs. But there are things you might want to consider.</p>
<p>Most Jews tend to grow up in places with lots of other Jews. I had cousins in that situation. However, I grew up in a small town where we definitely were a minority. We never heard of a school district closing for the High Holidays. in fact, we had tests and assignments due! (Deer hunting season was another story, of course.) I decided very early that I wanted a different experience in college, and I got one.</p>
<p>So how would you feel if you were one of 7 Jewish kids in your incoming class? If you couldn’t go home for Passover because of papers and exams? If your Jewishness mattered negatively to other people in your everyday life? Or just the opposites?</p>
<p>You might want to use that long thread as a filter. If a school looks good for all the other reasons, run it through the Jewish filter. See what parents have said about experiences, their children’s and friends’ children’s. It won’t be the definitive criterion for you, but it could be a good source of information.</p>
<p>Look into the schools that play in the ACC.</p>
<p>muhlenberg college minus maybe the d-1 sports</p>