Any info on Univ of Co Boulder vs Univ. of N. Colorado

<p>I know that both schools have an MT program, but I cannot find any info on CC about the difference between them or the quality of each program. Univ. of Co Boulder has a BFA in MT and Univ. of Co just has a BA in MT. Feeback anyone?</p>

<p>This will be no help in terms of MT, but I am an alum of Boulder... great town to live in!!!!! But the school is SO big that a student can stay on campus and never explore the town. The town definately adds to the CU experience!</p>

<p>I do not know about the program at Boulder -- but the BA program at U of N. Col.... has as many credits in the major as many BFA programs, and I believe that the training is strong. They audition students all over the country, and from what I understand are highly selective. I believe they have both a NY and LA showcase. I know someone who teaches in the program there who is great. I also met a few of their students at callbacks for the summer theatre where I am artistic director. I was impressed with both their skills and their positive attitude.</p>

<p>Thanks KatMT. Since the CC forum doesn't seem to have much on Boulder, would you have any suggestions of where to look for candid info. My s is at BTP right now but so far only U of N.Co has been mentioned. I have looked at the website and it looks quite good. I would just like to know from an MT expert and not just admissions people. Unfortunately U of N. Co doesn't have enough Environmental studies for my s to dabble in, so I don't think it will be an option.</p>

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<p>This is purely anecdotal, but a local girl who won the Tommy Tune award for best actress in our 4 million plus metropolitan area just over a year ago chose to attend U. of No. Colorado for MT. She had attended BTP for a number of years as well.</p>

<p>Yes, I hear great things about the BA program at U. of N. Colorado (no BFA) but it is a very small college with a nursing and teaching education focus and as described in a blog somewhere "a little cow town" so I have to balance all the factors. While in Boulder, we may just pop up there and see for ourselves, but other than a BA in MT it doesn't look like it is much of a fit for my s. Sending you a PM about BTP.</p>

<p>ooo ooo oooo!!! I can so help with this!! I live in Colorado and these are my two safeties :D Here's what my research dug up (copy and pasted from my blog):</p>

<p>University of Colorado, Boulder
Type: Public
Class: Safety
Location: Boulder, CO
Cost: $15,000 p. yr.
Size: 32,000 students
Fee: $50.00
Deadline: 1/15 vs. rolling admissions
Notification: ?
Financial aid: 4/1
Housing: 5/1</p>

<p>Why: A huge Public Ivy and the flagship of CO, as well as being located in "the country's smartest city," this school would have an unblemished reputation if not for its hardcore partying. Even so, a recent study in England ranked this school as the 11th best public university in the world. The school of mass communications and journalism is supposed to be decent, with an award-winning advertising focus, and they do offer an Honors program. Further down the road, they also have a career placement system.... and to be fair, the campus does look really pretty.</p>

<p>Cons: A huge, dwarfing university with an intense party reputation is not especially alluring to me, although it is definitely the best school in Colorado for academia. This school contests UNCo for my safety of choice.</p>

<p>University of Northern Colorado
Type: Public
Class: Safety
Location: Greeley, CO
Cost: $12,000 p. yr.
Size: 12,000 students
Fee: $40.00
Deadline: ?
Notification: ?
Financial aid: All students with a certain admission index get offered financial aid. Clockwork.</p>

<p>Why: In spite of the fact that this school is unlisted on all major compilations of top-notch schools, I got strong positive vibes from this campus. It might be a good school to attend, get freshman credits out of the way, and then transfer, if I don't get a good financial package anywhere. It has an award-winning business school that is basically its reason for existance; otherwise academics are supposedly mediocre. Still, the campus is beautiful - think cool, fresh, wooded Colorado campus with breathtaking dorms in Central Campus. Also, it's highly organized: I definitely got the feeling that the school runs like clockwork, with loads of student-friendly services like an on-campus spa and a cheap electronics (computer) service. It seemed like a system easy to master for newcomers. Also, our tour guide and financial aid officer were both very informative and impressively knowledgeable about just about everything on campus. Also, this school is super-friendly; I even got a handwritten note a month later from my tour guide, thanking me for visiting and wishing me the best of luck with the rest of my high school career, which has never happened at <em>any</em> other college I've toured. I was like, Awww.... So yeah. Not the best school, but an acceptable safety school to my mind. Also it's a nice size and setting -- we had lunch later that day at the Salvador Deli (cutest name ever!) and then explored the downtown area. Very nice. Fun fact: they have a Student Exchange program where you can switch colleges with another U.S. undergraduate and go elsewhere in the country-- that might be awesome!</p>

<p>Cons: The fact that it was unlisted in every single college guidebook I checked made me antsy. I don't think I'm a prestige whore, but I'd like to attend a school with some accolades for its academia. That's the only negative thing about this school, but as far as problems go, it's a big one.</p>

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<p>As far as musical theater goes.... UNCo definitely has the better MT program. They did Titanic: The Musical this last year and supposedly it was AMAZING. They found a way to do the ocean setting onstage (I have no idea how; they had to order a bunch of really expensive lighting equipment, I think) and every person we talked to on our campus visit raved about it, even though it had been like two months previous.</p>

<p>Fantastic! Thank you. My s is not a prestige guy either but needs a college that offers strong engineering and environmental studies which U. of Co. definately has. I guess when he figures out whether Engineering or MT comes first, the picture will start to clear. He would love to do both and U of Co. does say that it is possible to dual degree with all of the crossover in gen ed, but I guess it depends on the intensity of the sciences side. He is really interested in the whole "green environment" thing. He doesn't want to install solar panels, he wants to help invent the next phase of renewable energy concepts, so this in itself creates a whole new challenge in finding a good fit. Thanks again for your great info. I will take all of it into consideration.</p>

<p>You're so welcome. Who knew that being anal about documenting college info would pay off? ;)</p>

<p>Another very attractive point for an OOS student is that U of Co. has the "resident after a year" program which would allow for resident tution once you have lived there for 1 year. That is HUGE for tuition reduction after the first year, so that is a nice way to encourage OOS applications.</p>

<p>Be careful about that. Studying for a year in a state college is not always the same as "qualifying for residency." I would confirm with a financial aid officer. Example: Udub offers something similar on the surface, but it turns out that in order to qualify, you can't be a fulltime student for the first year... you'd have to take a light credit load and maybe even live off campus to qualify for in-state afterwards.</p>

<p>^ I don't know if that's true for every school. Talk to an admissions guy before you take it for granted though.</p>

<p>OK, Thanks!</p>

<p>Not familiar with MT at all, but UC Boulder has a great music program in general, and some wonderful grad level programs in that discipline. I have heard that the Colorado publics overall are beginning to suffer from some budgetary cutbacks.</p>

<p>UC Boulder also has had a rep as a major party school.</p>

<p>britbrat, I have a daughter who graduated from the Univ. of CO at Boulder about 8 years ago and another who is entering in the fall. We checked & rechecked and we were NOT able to establish in-state tuition status. My neighbor's son is now a junior, and I checked with her. Her answer is "no"...they STILL pay out of state tuition. I would LOVE to hear where you learned about qualifying for residency status!!!! That would be a HUGE money savings!!!</p>

<p>Come to think of it...I think someone told me if my daughter stayed and worked in Colorado (instead of coming home in the summer), it could possibly change her status...something I have to look into.</p>

<p>This is off the website, but maybe I am missing something. Worth asking the questions though.</p>

<p>Resident and Nonresident Classification for Tuition Purposes
New students are classified as residents or nonresidents for tuition purposes on the basis of information provided on the application for admission and other relevant documents. Applicants may be required to submit evidence substantiating their claim of resident eligibility. </p>

<p>The form provided in the application for admission is for U.S. citizens, permanent residents, refugees or asylees and certain noncitizens with temporary visas who wish to be considered for in-state (Colorado) tuition and who will be Colorado residents for one year as of the first day of class. Exceptions to the one-year requirement are provided for active-duty military, Colorado National Guard members, Olympic athletes, faculty members at state-supported colleges, and employees of companies moving to Colorado with State economic incentives. Information about the Colorado resident/nonresident regulations, including details of these exceptions, is available from the Office of the Registrar at Office</a> of the Registrar - University of Colorado, Boulder</p>

<p>The University of Colorado is a public institution and gives a slight preference to residents of Colorado. The majority of the applicants in any given year are nonresident, and competition for nonresident positions may be somewhat more intense. A preliminary determination of residency is made by the admissions staff on the application for admission. Final determination is made by the Tuition Classification Office.</p>

<p>Nonresident students may establish Colorado residence by maintaining their legal residence in Colorado for 12 consecutive months. Once they have established Colorado residence, they qualify for the lower resident tuition rates.</p>

<p>Applicants and students who think their classification is incorrect or who have become eligible for a change to resident status must submit a petition with documentation to apply for a change to in-state status. The petition forms, brochure, and an explanation of the Colorado tuition classification statute are available from the: </p>

<p>Tuition Classification Coordinator
University of Colorado at Boulder
Regent Administrative Center 125
68 UCB
Boulder, Colorado 80309-0068
303-492-0907</p>

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<p>This would seem to be the important part of that description. Residency must be established prior to the first day of class, unless you fit one of the exceptions.</p>

<p>And if you refer to my last post it states:</p>

<p>Nonresident students may establish Colorado residence by maintaining their legal residence in Colorado for 12 consecutive months. Once they have established Colorado residence, they qualify for the lower resident tuition rates.</p>

<p>Applicants and students who think their classification is incorrect or who have become eligible for a change to resident status must submit a petition with documentation to apply for a change to in-state status. </p>

<p>It indeed may mean that you stay for the summer, but once you have spent 12 months there it says that you can reapply and have your tuition adjusted for future years of resident tuition.</p>